that kinda is top tier though
I actually had the levels by the King Tigers, I’m trying to be nice here
yet, numerous sources, state otherwise.
So you are using a lot of premium vehicles? Playing all the trees? And have aaaaall the premium accounts?
I don’t
I like tanks (and recently boats)
And I don’t like to pay 60€ for a ingame vehicle that pricing is insane
Also I might not be the best player but im at least average… so that show that your previous statement is false
Your highest BR Russian vehicle is a T-54-II, you aren’t exactly sitting on a pile of personal experience with any of the Russian MBT’s.
I’ll give you a brief overview:
- Leo 2A4 & M1 Abrams > T-80B.
- M1A1 & IPM1 > T-80UM2.
- M1A1 AIM & M1A1 Click-Bait > T-80U.
- Leopard 2A7V > T-80BVM & T-90M.
Russia’s got pretty good lights, SPAA and CAS (incl. heli CAS), but their MBT’s are usually inferior.
And it’s wrong.
But 95% of the community gets it wrong all the time, which is why I made a chart that explains how the Armour Analysis tool should be used:
2022 called, it wants it’s outdated arguments back.
Confirmation bias.
Gotta love having a consistently worse reload than 95% of the opponents you’re facing!
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No.
No.
Also no.
It doesn’t show anything as being false, you’re just claiming it does even though it has no real relevance to the discussion at all.
“Everyone except me gets it wrong! Why is everyone so stupid?”
Maybe… you should learn… to reflect on some things
Look at the picure… you are staring down the barrel… that means… the view is indeed straight
But yes you are right! If I go slightly lower on the BVM the drivers hatch shows as not penetrable anymore making the tank even stronger!
You proved that the BVM has even better armor! Good job.
Also I did the same on the 2A7 it changed nothing! I even zoomed all the way out. Still UFP of 2A7 is easy to pen for BVM
Can you prove that to me or not
He can’t.
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it depends on situation put yeah with door open and close it should be around 5-5.5sec by average and if leave door open it can be fast as that and sure gaijin not going to implement something like that
95% isn’t everyone.
Besides, they do get it wrong.
Feel free to get a buddy who has the 2A7V, head on over to the eastern side of the Cargo Port map in a custom, that features 100% flat terrain and then fire any APFSDS you wish at the glacis of a 2A7V at 200-500m distance. Show me the results.
I’ve got a distinct feeling you’re not going to attempt that, because we both know what the outcome will be.
Then you did it incorrectly.
Disable the ‘‘Consider vertical camera angle’’ option on the bottom, then take a screenshot of the result and post it here.
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If you took the time to read the chart I’ve provided you with, you’d have noticed this is the correct angle.
The constructional angle of the armour is 81-82°, all of the shots I simulated in the video are at 81-82°.
But this comment confirms the fact that you neither understand the mechanics, nor understand how to get the correct angle.
I’m also getting a dinstinct feeling you’re not interested in educating yourself or improving your knowledge of the game, so I’ll leave things here.
Same mechanic applies to the M1’s and earlier Leopard 2’s.
81° is the autoricochet angle for virtually all APFSDS, hence why they fail to penetrate this area.
As an example: The UFP of an M1 Abrams is merely 38mm in thickness, yet it has no issues causing the Object 292’s 804mm LoS Penetration APFSDS to fail. You can test this out yourself in the test drive without the use of a friend.
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… that the bradleys and m60a3 have spall liners?
go read the bug reports Community Bug Reporting System the m60a3 i have to find again was on the old forums from years ago
Still underperform compared to 122
Even if you were right… this is ONE tank… all the other leos are made of paper and they are all on the same BR
So germany has ONE vehicle that is armor wise at the same level as the T- tanks and people think all T tanks should be buffed so they are straight up better again?
The UFP of all the T tanks overperform while other nations have paper thin hull armor whats that about?
The abrams should bounce on the ufp and it does but the “lower plate” isnt really a lower plate and is much larger than the ufp you can easily pen that and oneshot him… just shoot through the middle and at least 3 crew are gone and the tank destroyed
Also the abrams has a huge easy to hit neck that has no armor the drivers hatch aswell
Look at the abrams
compared to the BVM
The BVM has much smaller weakspots that are easier to hide
This is the T-90A it sits a WHOLE BR under the Top Leos and Abrams but they STILL can’t pen the UFP while it has the same round as the BVM why is it lower in BR? Same with T-72B that is at 10.0 this is insane
Even the leo 2 PSO can be penetrated on the UFP by the T-90A that is a whole br lower
2A6 vs T-90A just shoot anywhere you dont even have to aim
If they buff all Leos, Abrams, Merkavas etc so they cannot be UFP’d by any ussr tank then yes you are right western tanks are to strong… but that is not currently the case
I’m not sure what you mean.
What does my comment regarding camera angles and people not knowing what the correct ones are have to do with an Strv122 and something underperforming?
good Lord I look away for like 3 days lol
that sounds like a cool idea but would be a hell to balance it out, specially with the fact that the latest leopards use insensitive ammo, altough gaijin adds any of both lol
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Don’t forget that most T-tanks armor are overperform while western tank are underperform like DM53 and L27A1 don’t have anti ERA lol (Gaijin too scared to add they know exactly what will happen if they implement it)
And L/55 gun found on Leopard supposed to increase penetration of DM53 by 15 percent not more than L/44 by 30mm of armor lol I don’t think Rhienmetall are that fool to make longer gun just to increase in penetration by 30mm of armor
Not just underperform by huge underperform
But ofc if western tanks perform close to their real life counterparts Russia is done for.
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You are using the collective “NATO” but you’re mostly referring to USA lol… The new challenger hasn’t entered service yet, and the polish leopard was added also before it entered active service. As for the russian armor bar the ERA, it’s completely public information you can easily find online.
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