Russian MBTs: Firepower and Protection versus NATO counterparts

I’m not sure what you mean.

What does my comment regarding camera angles and people not knowing what the correct ones are have to do with an Strv122 and something underperforming?

good Lord I look away for like 3 days lol

that sounds like a cool idea but would be a hell to balance it out, specially with the fact that the latest leopards use insensitive ammo, altough gaijin adds any of both lol

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Don’t forget that most T-tanks armor are overperform while western tank are underperform like DM53 and L27A1 don’t have anti ERA lol (Gaijin too scared to add they know exactly what will happen if they implement it)
And L/55 gun found on Leopard supposed to increase penetration of DM53 by 15 percent not more than L/44 by 30mm of armor lol I don’t think Rhienmetall are that fool to make longer gun just to increase in penetration by 30mm of armor
Not just underperform by huge underperform
But ofc if western tanks perform close to their real life counterparts Russia is done for.

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You are using the collective “NATO” but you’re mostly referring to USA lol… The new challenger hasn’t entered service yet, and the polish leopard was added also before it entered active service. As for the russian armor bar the ERA, it’s completely public information you can easily find online.

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the extra pen its actually not on purpose i believe @Jεcka knows more about this but L55 was meant to increase the range not specifically penetration but ended up having not only more range but pen too

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Sure that it not more than 30mm like in the game it kinda look dumb
And here on 2A7V we had Rh120 L/55A1 too

When did I deny the Bradley’s having spall liners?

I was wrong, the M60A3 does have spall liners but that doesn’t mean that all M60s have spall liners

it is kinda funny that he forgets that rehimetall literally give us the velocity of the round fired with the l55 and l44, so im wondering where did he get a 15% increase in penetration when there is less than a 5 % increase in velocity.

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never said you did?

You mentioned the Bradley twice even after I made no mention of it

well the increase in penetration specified by other sources are very vague too, what im thinking they mean by 15% in penetration its probably penetration over longer distances

Tell that “potentially lethal” to all my top Russian tanks lol. Any shot in the lower plate as of late, bouncing of the belly armor and ALWAYS hits the ammo, negating any advantage. Also, the driver hatch on the Leo is really the only “one shot” area… the lower hull almost always only kills the driver, and most German players don’t bring hull ammo, additionally, the gun breech is easier to hit on the Russian tanks,

Fact for fact, the Russian tanks are certainly easier to kill in game.

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No ☺

They’d demonstrably be one and the same. You can’t increase range without increasing pen.

You increase range through aerodynamic changes to reduce drag, and/or increase thrust which was done by barrel length and gasses burning more evenly to increase thrust.

Penetration is a factor of angle, velocity, inertia/momentum and material science(shit I barely understand).

The idea that you could increase range and not expect a pen increase makes no sense. Since they used the same dart, the only expectation was to increase pen and range from the cannon through I’m assuming chamber pressure, and the efficacy of the barrel length with a slower burning charge.

Unless you’re referring to accuracy range, like whatever the MOA of tank barrels are at range.

Uh, yeah, they are, do I need to show you? There’s a reason my M1a1 click bait kd is over 2.0 same with my Leo 2 pzbtl

uuurgh premium vehicles… ofcourse…

maybe they simply fit your playstyle and the other tanks don’t?

yeah but the penetration wasnt really a meant up thing the main factor were the range, ofc they knew it would probably increase the range but like i said it wasnt the main reason why they went with an L55

That -3km an hour typically gets those Russian tanks killed and the fixed reload rates, the NATO mbts can reload as quick as 4 secs faster, or as slow as 0.5 secs faster.

Seems real “balanced” alright.

strange… most russian autoloader tanks reload faster than my leo even if they shot after me… must be a skill isue then right?

lets just forget about the absurd crew grind you have to perfom in order to get that fast reload

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