80U always had better armor profile than the T-80BVs. BVM just has more ERA
The T-80U uses an entirely new turret over the T-80B. The T-80BVM uses the same exact turret as the T-80B with ERA slapped to the sides.
It’s a BR 10.7 turret at 11.7 with poor ERA coverage.
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I get that maybe just pointing to mbt´s ammount wasnt the best way to show his point hahahaha, but bro, cmon.
Russia has the biggest 9.3 lineup hahahaha (mbt, light, aa, and cas)
That’s about right I’d say.
I love when people use arbitrary claims like that.
lol Soviets have no where close the biggest 9.3 lineup.
Soviets have 4 same as Italy, Germany and Israel have 6.
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Damn , never notice that tbh. Thank for the extra info
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Yeah, I give you the point with Israel; but Germany and Italy doesnt have AA in that lineup, germany doesn´t get a viable cas option, and israel doesn´t get a light vehicle option. Urss still the most complete lineup at 9.3 and if we count premiums/event/squad vehicles is the same number with israel (but I know it is ridiculous counting 2 bmd´s hahaha and the ayit is very powerfull)
Alpha Jet.
Also it’s not CAS, SPAA, or IFVs that win matches, it’s holding capture points.
The reason there are so many that sit there is because of a couple things. 1. Russia made a metric **** ton of MBT variants over the years. 2. Russia is the most played nation and therefor gets a lot of love due to that fact. If people break away from USSR and start playing other nations then the new top played nation would see the same love.
T series tanks are really not hard to beat as they all have the same weak points.
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So while one has to rely on a 8.7 plane (very good plane, not gonna lie) urss has 3 options at 9.3 to do cas, don´t you see where this is going?
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Alpha Jet is 9.0 in ground RB because of its speed, countermeasures, and CCIP bombs.
USSR’s options are inferior lacking both CCIP and countermeasures.
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same with every tanks even uparmored leopard tanks like Challenger 2 Abrams and Leclerc even moer easier to kill
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So CAS for Russia at 9.3 is:
MiG 19: wow, 250kg, that’ll do a lot! (Sarcasm)
MiG 21F-13: oh my, 500kg! Or 32 very small rockets that might hurt the tracks. However, no missiles.
Su-7B and BKL: the only viable CAS with 4 500kgs
Yak 27B: no one is using this.
Wow, such a variety. Fighter with no bombs, fighter with no missiles, two very brick-like planes, and a jet bomber no one ever uses.
Yes (I still prefer s-24) but still not the br and not the point, the point is that at 9.3 Urss hast the most complete lineup.
And no, holding capture points it is not the only thing that win matches, CAS, SPAA and Ifv´s win matches, CAS can whipe out an entire team, SPAA can counter CAS and help someone that doesnt had enough points to come back with a better vehicle, lights can spot and support and that is doing a lot for your team.
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I mean for the Soviet Union, the T64/72 based are like gold to them. It is revolutionary in it own right and it also relatively cheap to mass produced to fit their doctrine. Also the first few production model got reliability problem so they have to do something to save the design , that why they got so many variants
True but expecting people for breaking away from any of the major three. Is super unlikely, considering everything
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I wasn´t counting Mig´s but the yak38 hahahahaha, anyway, the urss still the most complete lineup at 9.3.
I do agree. This will never end as the big 3 will always command the most players, and on top of that USSR commands the most Ground Realistic players by quite a margin as shown in the stats from a moment ago.
So what? You can make a full line up with America top tier. Three F-15s, three F-16s, three F-18s, three F-14s, AV-8B, three M1A2s, ADATS, AND helicopters as well.
Pffffffffff hahahahah dude, for real?
You´re talking about top tier?
The br gap where russia has the best CAS (Kh38), the best AA, top 3 mbt, best helicopter and best ifv?
Let me guess, the next thing you are going to say is something about “Usa air dominates in ARB” (a game mode where matches are always all nations vs all nations)
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Rafale with Hammers can be competitive
Struggles against most CAS (like all SPAA)
Top 3 in what metrics? when the Top 1 and 2 are Leopard 2 variants? LOL
Spike Hawk being FnF is just outright superior due to being able to cheese any SPAA that btw struggles against CAS
Which one exactly?
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