Russian Bias: Raw MBT access in the 9.7-10.3BR region

So what? You can make a full line up with America top tier. Three F-15s, three F-16s, three F-18s, three F-14s, AV-8B, three M1A2s, ADATS, AND helicopters as well.

Pffffffffff hahahahah dude, for real?
You´re talking about top tier?
The br gap where russia has the best CAS (Kh38), the best AA, top 3 mbt, best helicopter and best ifv?

Let me guess, the next thing you are going to say is something about “Usa air dominates in ARB” (a game mode where matches are always all nations vs all nations)

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Rafale with Hammers can be competitive

Struggles against most CAS (like all SPAA)

Top 3 in what metrics? when the Top 1 and 2 are Leopard 2 variants? LOL

Spike Hawk being FnF is just outright superior due to being able to cheese any SPAA that btw struggles against CAS

Which one exactly?

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Oh goodness, if you’re just bad, just save us the trouble and admit that you are terrible. Kh funnies are not the fingers of God Himself. SPAA is cool, but the only thing going for it is the fact it can shoot real far (except the missiles become terrible post 10km out), the MBTs are not the best, best helicopter is hilarious since I shoot down those slow birds all the time, and best IFV? Who the bloody… who plays IFV in top tier, much less brings a BMP up to top tier.

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yeah thats why the ammo just refuses to blow up.

This isn’t true.

Ok, lets take this on parts.

Yeah, hammers are great and rafale is even better than anything russia has to offer, anyways KH38 are better has been better since they have been added and now you can spawn a su34 and su30 with the same ammount of kh38´s with the same cost of spawn points.

Pantsir still the best AA, even if it struggles like any other AA.

Top 3 if you count everything an Mbt can and can´t do in game, Abrams has speed and a great reload but is also a big weakspot on roads, Tkx the same as abrams but weaker armor and has lws, 2a7 is almost perfect but no lws and only the hungary one with a decent mg (still better than t90 or t80 tho) and strv has poor thermals, no ohter tank has that weir damage model of T series tanks where sometimes is a kill or sometimes is yellow breach, just a hit or just one crew kill (this was even worse before the autoloader nerf).

About helis: FnF missiles are great but spikes are slow and inconsistent, PARS are far better but that eurocopter hasn´t machinegun or a decent ammount of flares, also, fnf missiles cant be used if the enemy pop smokes or be launched before the enemy shows, Ka52 can win a 1v1 against any aa, just intercepting all their misiles and sending one more to kill the vehicle, also vikhrs are the only missiles that can reliably be used if the enemy pop smoke or shoot it before the enemy shows and are the fastes a2g missiles on a helicopter, also it can return to base if it has no tail (and that was worse when there was no weapons modules and the vikhrs had 12km effective range) so again, if you take everything a heli can and can´t do is by far the best helicopter.

wich one IFV? 2s38 or bmp2m yeah, I know there is one premium and one squad, still the best Ifv´s in game.

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Lol bro so your answer basically is:

Kh are not that great (a missile that can be send oustide every aa range (but pantsir) and hit the targent in less that 15 seconds)
You´re right with the pantsir.
You´re right with the mbt (I said top 3)
You´re not right with the helis cuz I shoot down those (lol)
I don´t play Ifv´s at top tier.

Hahahahaha dude, please.

That’s just the nature of CAS in GRB, hence why I avoid it like the plague now

This is more in line with my statement above, CAS has been such cancer, that being SPAA is just not fun

Not in my experience, but that’s anecdotal just like your experience. Breech can easily go out the moment you take a look at it, and let’s not forget that ammo not exploding was overblown (lol pun intended), there’s also the case of diesel exploding for some fckin reason

iirc Gaijin changed the behaviour of all laser guided now, LOSBR and Beam riding actually gets spoofed by smoke because lasers do not penetrate smoke (who woulda thunk), any FnF heli can beat spaa even easier than the Ka-52 because of the lower exposure time (arguably even better at dealing at SPAA). Ka-52 model got nerfed btw in case you didn’t know, losing it’s tail fcks with the flight model so much you kind have to hover your way home to make it out alive

HSTVL is better, especially after they got buffed

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Still quite abysmal if you haven’t played it. Better reload yes, but still only 26 rounds that barely do any damage sometimes, and most of the time get eaten by russian side ERA, or by the autoloader. And if you want to bring proxy, you’ll have to sacrifice a precious whole 2 shells to bring it. Yes, the mobility and survivabilty is quite good, but its still quite lacking. Nowhere close to being good.

If you didn’t know, any damage in particular will disable or kill the eurocopter. And while its slightly better at dealing with CAS its still mid since killing tanks is upto RNG and killing SPAA isn’t that easy either unless you launch like 4 missles at them (PARS is so slow you can intercept it) . However, i love smacking ka52 players with pars from far away

That is if they notice it, but then again it also applies to the Ka-52 tbf. Exposure time alone gives it a big advantage when dealing with SPAA

True, but trying to deal with SPAA all match won’t get you kills either. Ka52 can just hide from SPAA and spam Vihkr at tanks, and sure, eurocopter can do the same but its much less effective, simply because the PARS does little damage, is slow, and you only have 8 of them. (apparently, it can actually carry 2 more but i can’t say i know anything about that, but i would like to see that ingame)

You can shoot Khs out of the sky with Tor
Pantsir is a great SPAA, and all SPAAs need major buffs
They are not top three MBTs in general. Top five maybe, but not three.
The Ka-50/52 is a slow bird with decent AGMs. You’re better off with PARS or Hellfires.
I play the CV 120 and Centauro 120 exclusively, so.

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Vikhrs are also extremely good at hunting air targets tho. they are very agile
Otherwhise if you try to do the same with Hellfires you will miss.

I can’t count the amount of times i was flying the Squadron Apache, then receive laser warning from a Russian helicopter, we fire atgms from long distance, he dodges my hellfies by doing a slight turn meanwhile me having a stroke on the air doing all kind of moves to try evade it, but it never works because it is avery agile. Oh lets not forget they can even destroy enemy jets on some cases, which hellfires would never.

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i wish i could, sometimes i use my FlaRakRad to protect my team and destroy air ordinance but most of the times its impossible, SPAAs just get overwhelmed by AGMs, lot of times i try to defend myself, intercept 2 missiles(reload starts), but there are still extra 2 or 3 AGMS flying directly at me. then boom, im dead and left without another SPAA option to counter the CAS dominance

The SPAA situation is wild, i wonder when Gaijin will add something to improve it

SAMs have much better speed so you don’t even need to fire directly at Kamov, thus negating the proxy fuse of the Vikhr.

Yeah, it´s a cancer, but who take more advantage of it and against it?

Yeah, I mean, I also prefer abrams or tkx if I have to choose, but when the combat gets so chahotic and unpredictable the t series tanks has a better chance to stay alive (due to its damage model)

Yes but vikhrs still the only missiles that can be used if the enemy pop smoke or if they are under cover and you want to send a missile before they leave cover, bro you can even kill reccon UAV´s and planes with those hahahahaha. Against AA ok, fnf missiles are better if there is 2 or more aa or planes but PARS/Spikes/mavericks are so slow that can be easily intercepted or just move to covert, and again, in a 1v1 where aa and ka52 are pointing against each other, ka52 always gonna win due to having 12 missiles.

No it isn´t hahahaha, it is almost there because has better rounds and a better silhouette, but 2s38 has the reload, lws and unmaned turret on its favor (the br too but that doesn´t matter here) also you made a good point there “after they got buffed”.

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Tbf though Ka-52 has the advantage of ripple firing Vikhr at close proximity of each other. AVR is really good at these things, and they’re the only squad I have seen that effectively uses the Ka-52 in SRE

BUT, big but. SRE conditions are not the same as random battles

That still doesn’t help you when a missile corrects it’s course at the last moment before it impacts.
FnF helicopters can basically ignore AAs for the most part and continue doing their thing.

Yes, but by doing that you take the risk of failing your missile, while the ka52 just have to point at you and send one missile more to kill you. So while you´re whirliedirling your missile the ka is just pre firing his missiles at you.

It is not OP (it was when vikhrs had 12 km range), it is not unkillable, is just the best helicopter in game rn.