Russian Bias in 2025?

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4971

They simply have better players than other NATO nations. It doesn’t prove the tank is not garbage compared to other MBTs. Also, being a new MBT, the number of spawns, deaths, wins and other metrics are well below the ones of older ones, let’s say the 2A7. So you’re comparaing 2 samples that are completely different, they can’t be compared yet.

Also, look at the M1A2T and T-80 winrate compared to others. It’s higher. Russia and China win more at 12.7.

I’m not making stuff up, there is simply an oriental bias VS Nato, lol.

4972

You have your answer. Major nation players are complete trash, and minor nation players aren’t really that much better, except some few cases.

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4973

Ngl I will take Type 10 and TKX over every MBT RU has. BVM is the only solid RU MBT.
BVM Mod. 2023 when?

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4974

@kedrigern @ThEf_MATTEO @CAS_is_Bаlаnced

Who talked about their ground forces lmao.

“Take a sentence out of context, make up a scandal out of it”. I just said now they have SU-30, they inherited of the russian bias on that part. That’s it.

(and it’s true, prove me wrong).

4975

The Su-30SM/MKM isn’t even the best 14.3 by a large margin. Even before the AESA EFTs were added, the Rafale was still (and still is) the best plane for air RB.

4976

But you said you were a US main ? I believe you though.

(+ China is considered a major nation as it is basically a russian c/p. Hell, China IS a major nation worldwide).

4977

That’s why it’s being spam every 12.7 GRB game and they win everytime.

4978

China would be a major nation in WT, but gaijin refuses to add or fix vehicles.

Also, show me the Russian copy paste for air and ground for rank V+.

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4979

i dont think russian bias is a thing unless its there early YAKs cause there just under br’d i think gaijins just so inconsistent its not even funny

4980

Well, if youre talking about “bias” in top tier and conveniently arent looking at GRB, the Su30 isnt even that good in ARB. Sure it has lot of missiles but most people know how to notch at that BR most of the time.
And like has been said above, 14.3 is still being dominated by MICAs and now AESA Typhoons (and the SM2 thanks to the stupid radar azimuth limit)
If im forced to play top tier id rather bring my 14.0 Gripen E to 14.3 than to play MKM or the SM
Also for japan Air id rather play F15JM than Su30MKM. Better BR placement and still very competent plane.

4981

ZTZs, Types, WZ305, Migs, Tu-4, all the Js and JHs. Different names, same caracteristics.

Chinese are known to do mimicry. They take a little bit from Russia and the US, and make stuff looking like both. Sometimes like Russia only (ZTZs are pretty obvious in that matter. Types also).

EDIT : ZBD is a BMD-4M too.

4982

This must be a joke?

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4983

I’m just talking about GRB, Idk about ARB

4984

No? Those have varying differences, amethyst vast majority of MBTs are unique/partially unique.

For Soviet copy paste in air you have:
Mig-9s, J-2, J-4, J-6, J-7II** ( cockpit difference, matters for sim), Tu-4, H-5 and the J-11. That’s it for air.

Unique is:
J-7E, J-8B, J-8F, J-10A, J-10C, J-11A, J-11B, Q-5 early, Q-5A, Q-5L, JH-7, and JH-7A.
Sure seems like a lot of unique planes.

Not true

Doesn’t make it copy/paste, or even very similar.

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4985

Potato potato, “ZBD is not a BMD-4M, the interior is different it’s important for sim”

4986

The only two nations I have top tier ground in is the USSR and Japan. Literally polar opposite playstyles.

But I find myself doing better in Japanese tanks, since I can actually get out of tough situations, and my autoloader isn’t abysmally slow. (I know T series autoloaders got buffed, but at top tier you’re gonna be shooting 3BM60, and a 0.1 second buff isn’t alot.)

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4987

I’d say the SM2 is giving it a real run for it’s money. But yeah, I think that for most players the Rafale is better.

4988

su30 were not that good untill the recent sm2 and the FM buff

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4989

I wish it was, but unfortunately (or fortunately for comedic purposes) this guy truely believes that the T-90M is that good.

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4990

It’s a super fun tank, but it isn’t Meta by any means.

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