Russian Bias in 2025?

[O_HOgameplay]

@_Ladies_Man_217

Who even mentioned Darts? I spoke about eating air-to-ground missiles.

Prove it is the ERA that stops it.
Also could you provide an example with video?

@Lolman345

You quote reply my source quote later on lmao.

Yes i know.

@Lolman345

Da yis, barrel life is a binary value and only causes issues when it ticks over and only MV is effected.

Yes that is the only thing i changed. Reduced MV=reduced pen.

@Lolman345

Yes, I know, as I’ve already said, it should have a effect.

No, we dont need such stupid mechanics.

@Lolman345

And you aren’t picking up anything I’m putting down are you.

???

@Lolman345

Says that the APHEDS round the maus has no place in game and if it is in game should shatter.

I literally dont say that. I brought it up to expose your double standards.

@Lolman345

Yeah you aren’t reading anything of what I wrote.

I do.

@Lolman345

As I already said, such should be the case, I want the naval guns in game to preform realistically, not in a vacuum, and I have reiterated such multiple times now.

Which is bad. Too much realism is not good. You might as well could complain that you can swap a blown up 46m gun in like 20s in game while in battle and shooting from the 2 guns next to it.

@Lolman345

Cool and I don’t, case closed, problem solved.

Which would bring in a wast number of issues including that a bunch of things would be literally unplayable. Yeah have a fun time with a Kpz-70 that cant reload because it’s autoloader does not work, have fun climbing a very small heap of trash on a Ferdinand and then get set on fire, have fun with your Sheridan randomly blowing up when you shoot…

@Lolman345

You seem to think that the shells for all ships, with the most filler in game are exclusively nose fused HE, I regret to inform you that this is not the case.

Yes there are few exceptions, the Poltava and Imperatritsa Mariya, japanese 36cm guns (some of them doesnt even have HE, mjust SAP and APHE). Also Italy doesnt use HE and France/USA doesnt use SAP for battleships.

As for smaller guns, i really doubt that there is any SAP with more filler than HE in the same gun.

@Lolman345

Aka anything but the belt armor, imagine that.

Nope. Even hitting other places like turrets or just the deck will not result in any meaningful damage.

@Lolman345

And I’ve never been talking about HE.

But what you said heavily implied it as i have demonstrated, since the overwhelming majority of the cases base fuse HE has the most filler.
I know you feel bad that you was debunked, but come on…

@Lolman345

And I thought we were talking about battleship where a good majority of BBs sport SAP as either their default round or their largest, by filler volume round. Only the USN sports a majority nose fused HE as their largest and stock HE rounds for a majority of their BBs.

Okay, let’s test it:
12inch/45 Mk 5:HE,
14inch/45 Mk 12: HE
12inch/50 Mk 7: HE
12inch/50 Mk 8: HE
14inch/45 Mk 8: HE
14inch/50 Mk 11: HE
406mm/45 Mk 5: HE
16inch/50 Mk 7: HE
(i dont want to count them on each ship but since each uses HE as stock, its enough to count how many ships use these guns, which is 12)

283mm/45 SK L/45: SAP, 3
305mm/50 SL L/50: HE, 3
38cm/45 SK L/45: SAP, 4
283mm/54,5 SK C/34: HE, 1
38cm/52 SK C/34: HE, 3
35cm/45 SL L/45: SAP, 1

12 inch/52 p1907: HE/SAP (depending on the ship), 2/2
14inch%52 p1913: HE (BF), 1
305mm/54 B-50: HE, 1
406mm/50 B-37: SAP, 1

305mm/45 Mk X: HE, 1
15inch/42 BL Mk I: SAP, 6
13.5inch/45 Mk 5(H): HE, 3
16inch/45 BL Mk I: HE, 2
12inch/50 Mk XI: HE, 1
13.5inch/45 Mk 5(L): HE, 1

12inch/45 Vickers: HE, 2
36cm/45 Type 41: SAP, 8
410mm/41 Type 3: HE, 2
460mm/45 Type 94: HE, 1

305mm/46 Armstrong: SAP, 3
381mm/40 Armstrong: SAP, 1
320mm/44 OTO m 1934: SAP, 1
320mm/44 Ansaldo m 1936: SAP, 2
381mm/50 Ansaldo-OTO m 1934: SAP, 1

340mm/45 m 1912: HE, 2
305mm/45 m 1906-10: HE, 1
330mm/52 m 1931: HE, 1
380mm/45 m 1935: HE, 1

So in total ships with stock SAP or SAP with the most filler:33
Ships with stock HE:41

@Lolman345

Only the USN sports a majority nose fused HE as their largest and stock HE rounds for a majority of their BBs.

Wrong again. It is US, France, UK,also USSR could count since it has the Sevastopol.

@Lolman345

Cool then lets line up the Soyuz vs Bismark then as they fight eachother in game.

What? Why? Why would you put a 8.3 ship against a 8.7 one?

@Lolman345

Huh, thats weird, Soyuz’s stock SAP is only a few MM worse pen wise at 60 than the purpose built APCBC rounds on Bismarck at your “engagement ranges” of 10 and 15km.

@Lolman345

Ok how about Amagi and her 410s?

@Lolman345

Nope, only around 15mm of difference or less. (note her number 3 rounds are actually worse lmao)

How about Richelieu

@Lolman345

Oh hey, 22mm now thats … totally a massive difference (1936 APCBC is just a tiny bit better)

And the same is the case for Colorado, the 15 inch armed British ships and others, with only Roma, Iowa, Yamato and Soyuz herself having a actual tangible pen improvement over Soyuz’s SAP when compared to their APCBC.

OMG!!! Chinese 105mm SAP has ~8x more filler than german 105mm APHE but has more pen!!! Chinese bias!4!4!4!4!4!4!!!

@Lolman345

I just explained that if there is any kind of russian bias in the en calculations, he can find it in code and close this debate once and for all.

@racimazzedine

japan bais. track ricochet a 457mm pen apfsds

At least your shot penned…

@TROOPER7

I have not such knowledge about codes to do it but even if i could do it im not sure that i would make you see something that you obviously dont want to see …

The porjection here is really strong.
Buddy, it is YOU who are in a cult, not me. If you can show me evidence then i will accept it. YOu are on the other hand, constantly demonstrate that you are unwilling to accept such things.

[Dzhkグ]

There is no Russian bias there is just this game SUCKING!! /j

[MotorolaCRO]

@Lolman345

You can so easily look this up yourself lol, only the AIM was worse and thats still a vehicle you can buy into.

Look what I’ve found. How come Click Bait can have the highest WR of all US 11.7 MBTs for months on end ? I thought premiums perform much worse than TT equivalents and drag down the stats ?

Even your cherry picked example is quite comical, where CB had only 0.2% (yes) worse WR than M1A2. You’ve found some proof there buddy, lmao.

@Lolman345

Lol

I’m still waiting.

[TROOPER7]

@O_HOgameplay

Buddy, it is YOU who are in a cult, not me. If you can show me evidence then i will accept it.

yea i know you want the bear foot tracks to be convienced…

[O_HOgameplay]

@TROOPER7

yea i know you want the bear foot tracks to be convienced…

So where is the code segment proving the bias? I am waiting!

[racimazzedine]

bais this, bais that. i cant imagine how you guys are going to react when they going to add this

[TROOPER7]

@O_HOgameplay

So where is the code segment proving the bias? I am waiting!

You will wait for very long since i dont have code knowledge as i said before and it will take long time to be educated about … but some things are rather obvious …
For example If i was asked what is this ?

My answer would be a nuclear explosion and i dont have nuclear physics knowledge either…

[O_HOgameplay]

@racimazzedine

bais this, bais that. i cant imagine how you guys are going to react when they going to add this

People will collapse xd. They will have the same meltdown when the Object 292 and 775 were added…
And then they get released and it turns out they are meh at best.

Like okay, you have the Terminator… Good old trash T-72 mobility, likely will be popped by the 30mm ammo explosion since its likely stored where the normal T-72 ammo is, but now you can just shoot at the paper turret and pop it (likely even with a .50 cal).

The Burlak turret is just a sidegrade. You would shoot at the exact same spots as on any other T series tanks.

@TROOPER7

You will wait for very long since i dont have code knowledge as i said before and it will take long time to be educated about … but some things are rather obvious …

Then ask somebody. There are likely tons of cult members that know how to code and can find that for you.

@TROOPER7

but some things are rather obvious …
For example If i was asked what is this ?

@TROOPER7

My answer would be a nuclear explosion and i dont have nuclear physics knowledge either…

Duh. You just made an awful comparism.

One is a well known thing (nukes) and the other is just a delusional cope mechanis with zero proof or valid argument backing it up.

[TROOPER7]

@O_HOgameplay

One is a well known thing (nukes) and the other is just a delusional cope

Russian bias is very well known too…there is a social media flooding for years and we are chating in a russian bias topic right now…

[O_HOgameplay]

@TROOPER7

Russian bias is very well known too…there is a social media flooding for years and we are chating in a russian bias topic right now…

Talking about it is not the same as the thing being real. You know, even more people say that the Earth is flat or vaccines cause autism…

[ron_23]

@TROOPER7

My answer would be a nuclear explosion and i dont have nuclear physics knowledge either…

there you are wrong, it is a phenomena caused by a high yield explosion and dosent inherently have to be a nuclear one

ontop of that the mushroom cloud isnt the explosion but an updraft of alot of hot air carring debries and dust, as the hot air rises it starts to cool down which makes it go down again, just to be sucked back into the updraft, creating the ‘mushroom’

this cloud right here isnt caused by a nuclear explosion, but rather a natural phenomenon:

that is a picture of the Redoubt Volcano errupting in 1990

so yeah your argument just fell short, with you not needing to be a nuclear physics

[racimazzedine]

@O_HOgameplay

Like okay, you have the Terminator… Good old trash T-72 mobility, likely will be popped by the 30mm ammo explosion since its likely stored where the normal T-72 ammo is, but now you can just shoot at the paper turret and pop it (likely even with a .50 cal).

yeah but there is 3 different variants

i dont know which is based of t90 or t72 but you get the idea.

Kurganets-25 with 30mm or 2s38 57mm with atgms would make a nato main cry

[racimazzedine]

or simply just add a godamn battleship bigger than a leo2

[O_HOgameplay]

@racimazzedine

yeah but there is 3 different variants

I know, but the ammo layout and armor is likely to be essentially the same.

@racimazzedine

Kurganets-25 with 30mm or 2s38 57mm with atgms would make a nato main cry

Yeeee an even bigger and slower 2S38… But for sure it would make them cry xd.

@racimazzedine

or simply just add a godamn battleship bigger than a leo2

I mean just shoot HEAT/HE/HESH to the crew cupola and overpressure xd. Or hit the ammo (tho it would not kill it, but would remove all the ammo)

[racimazzedine]

aps would intercept it

[O_HOgameplay]

I dont think the hard kill APS could cover the front. But in that case just pop the ammo and that’s it.

[H_ngma]

@racimazzedine

i cant imagine how you guys are going to react when they going to add this

That depends. Do we also get equipment from the same timeframe?

[O_HOgameplay]

@H_ngma_

That depends. Do we also get equipment from the same timeframe?

Do you understand that the date a vehicle was made is utterly irrelevant?

[H_ngma]

Duh. What I was referring to is the outcry is very much dependent on if the other trees get similarly modern vehicles which would obviously correlate to its br.

[O_HOgameplay]

Date usually correlates with BR but not always. Look up a few low tier swedish or south african vehicles…