RIP your debates from here on out, you said cope and seeth.
You’ve thrown in the towel now.
Your opinions mean nothing now, you have no data, you just came here to complain about things that aren’t true, and things you have no idea about.
Since it gone trough several modifications yes infromation in it might be seriously outdated
And I’m doing those ?
You’re here complaining for months about how Gaijin is fueled by propaganda and how WT is an extremely biased game made to suit the players playing the protagonist nation, while being extremely unfair to others. Definitely actions done by an angry man.
But I guess you enjoy the game so that’s why you keep playing it lmao.
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More likely never existed besides the brochure (MT)
some of it yup
‘you’re here complaining for months’ → pure projection
yes i still play because enjoy a challenge, that’s why i’m not touching USSR ground or china, because i’m not a filthy cheater
You pretty much are complaining for months, it’s at this point a fact.
From the comments you’re making on here, I don’t think you’re enjoying any of it.
You touched USSR ground and performed just decently in it, despite the built in “cheats”.
It’s funny how you bring up China in this as well while their higher tier stuff being mid at best.
When compared to that, something like a 2A7 feels like cheating but I doubt you’re focused on true vehicle performance because you’re blinded by IRL hatred.
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how is all this nonsense still going.
unfortunately living in your head rent free isn’t the same as ‘complaining for months’
still fixated on that lol. i do great in the T80UM2 considering i take it to top tier without thermals.
it confirmed everything i suspected about T80s, i tank rounds a lot more often, i get an insane HE, ATGMs, can easily crest hills, peak corners and zoom around the battlefield…
with thermals, better armor and bushes this would be cheating (which it is)
but that’s not enough! russia must also have invincible helis!! it’s only fair because pantsir is no longer numbah1!!! hahaha
the very definition of cope
While other countries had SPAA of 7-8 km, and NATO’s launch range of AGM-65 missiles was 9 km. That is, to hit Pantsir, it was necessary to fly 7 km deep into its defenses. At the time, when Kh-38MT carriers destroyed all living things not from a safe distance and their missiles could not be outmaneuvered by any SPAA. I won’t even mention ADATS.
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Oh yeah, ADATS wasn’t even allowed to lock a target that its search radar found for years, only changed this last update
And even if you manually found a Kh38 coming your way, the IRST lock would break immediately
Very balanced and unintentional for a top tier AA
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Damn not even related to it but ready to repeat that tantrum everywhere
I truly understand why the top tier NATO tanks aren’t getting the latest ammunition. What I would ask for is that certain tanks be given better armor, especially the added ones, like the Challenger 2 TES and OES. Furthermore, they should review all NATO ERAs, since the Brenus ERA is incorrect, the Romor ERA is incorrect. I wouldn’t be surprised if the M60 ERAs were also inferior to reality. The Mexas armor is also almost an extra weight for nothing. On the other hand, I would also review the armor and ammunition of NATO tanks of ranks 6 and 7, giving them a change of Br that will be necessary of course. The AMX-30B2 Brenus should by date have a better APDS-FS. The M60A1 RISE and A3TTS should carry the M774 and 833 respectively. The Chieftain Mk5 should use the L15A5 which is slightly better than the L15A3. The Centurion Mk10 should have the mantlet armor fixed once and for all, and also add the L52A1 raising its Br to 8.3, replacing the Centurion Mk5/2 with the L28A1. Changing the subject, there are also things that need to be corrected on the USSR side. For example, the armor of the T-55AM-1 and T-62M1 should be somewhat better, making it resistant to the L28A1 and almost to the M728, since its armor was almost the same as the T-64A or T-72Ural. The penetration of the 100mm 3BM25 and to a lesser extent the 115mm 3BM21 should also be reviewed, since essentially the 100mm 3BM25, the 115mm 3BM21 and the 125mm 3BM22 were practically the same in performance and only differed in the different speed at which they left the barrel.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/RDpEDW9EHG3n
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Z0H3xuwhqEkH
Me seeing you getting upset and complaining about bias, propaganda, cheats, etc. for months is just a factual observation.
What you need thermals for, CQC brawls ?
Those helicopters got their counters years ago with SACLOS SAMs.
But such a naive and ignorant statement was expected from a guy like you. You seem like a guy that will blame the commies when he stubs his toe.
we french mains have actually concocted this thread and its specimens in a lab to deflect attention from our reign of glory. Thus,
HON HON HON, FRANCE WINS AGAIN!!!1!!!1 I FART IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION ANGLOSAXON!!!
Kh-38 was added in 2024, and you’re referencing 2021 with the AGM-65Bs. Which don’t have a lock range of 9km but around 5km.
In late 2022 14km lock range, 20km launch range AGM-65Ds were added to a competent platform.
2nd update of 2023 13km range Pantsir was added with the new SACLOS control system.
October 2024, Pantsir’s effective range was increased to 16km.
AGM-65D/Gs were still launchable at 18km without issue.
Only in June of 2025 were SPAA added that deal with AGM-65, Kh-38MT, and IR Hammer carriers.
Pantsir was only ever good against LGBU CAS, and that one was more recent.
Lmao if warthunder was a very biased game, my T-34-85 wouldn’t see constant uptiers to Tiger 2 battles
Or you actually are lying. Russia is one of the toughest ground nations, only have a couple “good regions” he’ll, I actually prefer USA & Brit’s because their brs are better, and they tend to have some really wonky stuff happen.
Interesting I remember it quite differently.
But it is no surprise with your perception of reality :)
I do my best to test every major thing every update, especially CAS related.
Helicopters I didn’t do as much because SPAA so heavily out-ranks them in capabilities why would I test top helicopters when they’re just food for semi-good SPAA players?
The first thing I did when Pantsir was added was spend 5 hours in custom battles on both dev server and live server [1.5 hours dev, 3.5+ hours live] testing ranges because I wasn’t going to trust statcards when they were wrong about ITO-90M and Tunguska.
I discovered I could get to 13km before missiles have a notable chance of hitting a minor moving target at 8000 meters altitude.
That would change to 16km in fall 2024 making LGBUs a challenge to use when Pantsirs are up, but only LGBUs.
There was harrier gr7 who could outrange any spaa for 8 months before pantsir arrived. But it was a rare plane so nobody care.