Russian Bias in 2025?

[_Renzo]

I don’t fully agree with it but it’s not the most outlandish.

We’ll see how it changes again with the next major update.

[tripod2008]

@UniqueScorpions-live

I cannot understand it.

Clearly you must be either relying on pretty shit MTL software, or you are unable to formulate an excuse for fairly obvious inconstancies in Gaijin’s position between the two referenced articles.

[UniqueScorpions-live]

Lmao, just curious, which ones would you swap?

[UniqueScorpions-live]

What? I’m talking about YOUR TEXT .

[tripod2008]

You’re really only showing your (in)ability to interpret what was written.

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@БЕИ

The problem can pretty much be solved by adding a gamemode involving only ground vehicles and no aircrafts.

How many TO mode cry threads do you need ?

@tensilaspider

And the 2s38 surviving basically perfect shots to its front while being able to basically disable every tank it came across.

So you mean like the Puma when it was added at 8.3 when it came. But that was fine i guess, it’s a german wunderwaffe after all.

@ExcaliburSniper

The 2S38 is also a massive problem for NATO teams. The fact that most players can spawn a better Otomatic at any second negates NATO helis across many BRs.

The fact most players can spawn something with spikes at any second negates Soviet helis across many BRs.

@ExcaliburSniper

There are far more 2S38 players than there are Spike players especially at the criminally low 2s38 BR (with freccia being the rare exception)

bs

@ExcaliburSniper

Spike vehicles also don’t carry many, so they are more likely to be out of ammo when a heli shows up

Problem of the spike user if he can’t manage ammo.

@ExcaliburSniper

Finally Russian helis can stay much further away than Nato helis and remain effective (detection less likely - surviving a spike more likely)

bs

Overall i can say you are just a giant crybaby venting here.
And shocking, doesn’t play Russia.

[БЕИ]

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[TROOPER7]

@ExcaliburSniper

That’s a game mechanic that massively increases their survivability in an unfair and unrealistic way, and it’s been months

It’s just one of countless “bugs” and unbalance that give a massive advantage primarily to russia which persist for months or years

For years and years actually…

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@БЕИ

Up to the people who want them, since you are a nobody, so you are in no position to tell people what they can or cannot do around here

Well it’s a quality Russian bias thread, and not another TO whine thread, so we can just get the mods in here for deviating from this quality thread if you want.

[Neothe1]

Ahhh Excalibur what happens when they add the Balkans for example, then we will have Balkan bias while the Helikopter, Helikopter music plays in the background as the (Serbo, Romania, Bulgarian Greek Ka-50) takes off.

[_Renzo]

It could be personal bias on my end, but for current meta I would swap Sweden and the US around and I would change the order of the last 3 to Israel > Italy > China.

Main problem is of course that Italy, Russia, France, Britain and Japan might be shuffled around again depending on how they implement the new SPAAs and Oplot-T.

[noamax]

Thats the funny thing
Other countrues have equivlamts gaijin just dont give them thos

[ExcaliburSniper]

I don’t need to use an ESP to know that it’s unfair
2S38 are more prevalent than Spike vehicles, they’re also premium and an easy way to spawn an overpowered Kh38 or Vikhr slinger, which means they’re massively more likely to be in play than any Spike slinger.
“up to the spike user to manage ammo” yeah because 100 air only rounds is totally comparable to 2 or 4 polyvalent tank-heli ATGMs, cope

Yet another seething bias apologist unable to make a coherent argument so its first reaction is to stat check. No wonder my stats have like 80 views lmao

[ExcaliburSniper]

I don’t see how that would change anything, it’s all USSR in their mind anyway.

[Whisloy]

@tripod2008

Especially considering that the autoloader and ammo are two different modules

I didn’t get do you wan’t to autoloader module explode or ammo stop exploding ?

@tripod2008

The fact that it doesn’t is odd considering the explanation of why the basket was modeled the way it was in the excerpt from Gaijin’s article explaining their reasoning.

People voted for it.

@tripod2008

So? were loaders not also implemented part of the crew modules, why doesn’t damage to the autoloader also prevent slewing of the Turret, the same way the turret basket now does?

@tripod2008

The revised autoloader arbitrarily not also jamming the turret drive(s), where the Turret basket being damaged does.

Because autoloaders can spin without turret i think it indicates that those are seperate things while in Abrams basket contains parts of the horizontal drive.

[ExcaliburSniper]

if you’re gonna cherrypick one item then at least try to steelman it lil Бro

[Whisloy]

@ExcaliburSniper

There are far more 2S38 players than there are Spike players especially at the criminally low 2s38 BR (with freccia being the rare exception)
Spike vehicles also don’t carry many, so they are more likely to be out of ammo when a heli shows up
Finally Russian helis can stay much further away than Nato helis and remain effective (detection less likely - surviving a spike more likely)
inb4 “but muh FnF missiles” → useless after about mid-game once there are wrecks everywhere, especially when looking at the AO from the low altitude you are required to be at (unlike russian and chinese helis which almost always fly straight up)

Big wall of copium doesn’t even deserve to be read. Gun cannot beat in effectivness missile agains’t moving and manuevering air target simply because shell cannot change it’s trajectory and quality of 3UO8 is abhorrent 150 grain of explosive is not enough 5 times less than Otomatic and HSTV-L.

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@ExcaliburSniper

Yet another seething bias apologist unable to make a coherent argument so its first reaction is to stat check.

Yes, when you are making ridiculous claims, i am going to check if you have played those vehicles you are claiming to be broken. And shocking, almost everytime the person making the claims didn’t play them.

Unlike you, i have played them among multiple other nations and know what i am talking about.

[tripod2008]

@Whisloy

I didn’t get do you wan’t to autoloader module explode or ammo stop exploding ?

Neither, on top of the existing implementation a damaged autoloader, it should also prevent the Turret from being slewed. The same way a damaged Turret basket does, It’s only fair.

@Whisloy

Because autoloaders can spin without turret

The I doubt that the upper section of the autoloader ( mechanism used for the gun ramming ) can rotate both independently of the Gun barrel, and the carousel, As such damage should prevent it from rotating, thus jamming, fixing the turret in place.

@Whisloy

while in Abrams basket contains parts of the horizontal drive

???

Please locate the components that form part of the high pressure loop of the Hydraulic system in the above picture.

The accumulator services the Sump tank (listed erroneously on the X-ray in game as the pump), which is part of the low pressure loop, and as such is not a critical element of the drive system.

[ExcaliburSniper]

Again I don’t need to use a wallhack to know it’s unfair. I don’t need to use a Mi28NM to know that repelling 8 IRIS-T is unfair.
The fact that the 2s38 is premium & a step up to (fun and easy) CAS gameplay is objectively a very strong reason for why it would be more common than Spike vehicles. The long range argument holds up. The ammo argument holds up even if - yes - it’s up to the player to manage limited ammo.
Overall you’re coping+seething, keep on doing that