Russian Bias in 2025?

[TROOPER7]

@ExcaliburSniper

That’s a game mechanic that massively increases their survivability in an unfair and unrealistic way, and it’s been months

It’s just one of countless “bugs” and unbalance that give a massive advantage primarily to russia which persist for months or years

For years and years actually…

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@БЕИ

Up to the people who want them, since you are a nobody, so you are in no position to tell people what they can or cannot do around here

Well it’s a quality Russian bias thread, and not another TO whine thread, so we can just get the mods in here for deviating from this quality thread if you want.

[deleted_user]

Ahhh Excalibur what happens when they add the Balkans for example, then we will have Balkan bias while the Helikopter, Helikopter music plays in the background as the (Serbo, Romania, Bulgarian Greek Ka-50) takes off.

[_Renzo]

It could be personal bias on my end, but for current meta I would swap Sweden and the US around and I would change the order of the last 3 to Israel > Italy > China.

Main problem is of course that Italy, Russia, France, Britain and Japan might be shuffled around again depending on how they implement the new SPAAs and Oplot-T.

[noamax]

Thats the funny thing
Other countrues have equivlamts gaijin just dont give them thos

[ExcaliburSniper]

I don’t need to use an ESP to know that it’s unfair
2S38 are more prevalent than Spike vehicles, they’re also premium and an easy way to spawn an overpowered Kh38 or Vikhr slinger, which means they’re massively more likely to be in play than any Spike slinger.
“up to the spike user to manage ammo” yeah because 100 air only rounds is totally comparable to 2 or 4 polyvalent tank-heli ATGMs, cope

Yet another seething bias apologist unable to make a coherent argument so its first reaction is to stat check. No wonder my stats have like 80 views lmao

[ExcaliburSniper]

I don’t see how that would change anything, it’s all USSR in their mind anyway.

[Whisloy]

@tripod2008

Especially considering that the autoloader and ammo are two different modules

I didn’t get do you wan’t to autoloader module explode or ammo stop exploding ?

@tripod2008

The fact that it doesn’t is odd considering the explanation of why the basket was modeled the way it was in the excerpt from Gaijin’s article explaining their reasoning.

People voted for it.

@tripod2008

So? were loaders not also implemented part of the crew modules, why doesn’t damage to the autoloader also prevent slewing of the Turret, the same way the turret basket now does?

@tripod2008

The revised autoloader arbitrarily not also jamming the turret drive(s), where the Turret basket being damaged does.

Because autoloaders can spin without turret i think it indicates that those are seperate things while in Abrams basket contains parts of the horizontal drive.

[ExcaliburSniper]

if you’re gonna cherrypick one item then at least try to steelman it lil Бro

[Whisloy]

@ExcaliburSniper

There are far more 2S38 players than there are Spike players especially at the criminally low 2s38 BR (with freccia being the rare exception)
Spike vehicles also don’t carry many, so they are more likely to be out of ammo when a heli shows up
Finally Russian helis can stay much further away than Nato helis and remain effective (detection less likely - surviving a spike more likely)
inb4 “but muh FnF missiles” → useless after about mid-game once there are wrecks everywhere, especially when looking at the AO from the low altitude you are required to be at (unlike russian and chinese helis which almost always fly straight up)

Big wall of copium doesn’t even deserve to be read. Gun cannot beat in effectivness missile agains’t moving and manuevering air target simply because shell cannot change it’s trajectory and quality of 3UO8 is abhorrent 150 grain of explosive is not enough 5 times less than Otomatic and HSTV-L.

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@ExcaliburSniper

Yet another seething bias apologist unable to make a coherent argument so its first reaction is to stat check.

Yes, when you are making ridiculous claims, i am going to check if you have played those vehicles you are claiming to be broken. And shocking, almost everytime the person making the claims didn’t play them.

Unlike you, i have played them among multiple other nations and know what i am talking about.

[tripod2008]

@Whisloy

I didn’t get do you wan’t to autoloader module explode or ammo stop exploding ?

Neither, on top of the existing implementation a damaged autoloader, it should also prevent the Turret from being slewed. The same way a damaged Turret basket does, It’s only fair.

@Whisloy

Because autoloaders can spin without turret

The I doubt that the upper section of the autoloader ( mechanism used for the gun ramming ) can rotate both independently of the Gun barrel, and the carousel, As such damage should prevent it from rotating, thus jamming, fixing the turret in place.

@Whisloy

while in Abrams basket contains parts of the horizontal drive

???

Please locate the components that form part of the high pressure loop of the Hydraulic system in the above picture.

The accumulator services the Sump tank (listed erroneously on the X-ray in game as the pump), which is part of the low pressure loop, and as such is not a critical element of the drive system.

[ExcaliburSniper]

Again I don’t need to use a wallhack to know it’s unfair. I don’t need to use a Mi28NM to know that repelling 8 IRIS-T is unfair.
The fact that the 2s38 is premium & a step up to (fun and easy) CAS gameplay is objectively a very strong reason for why it would be more common than Spike vehicles. The long range argument holds up. The ammo argument holds up even if - yes - it’s up to the player to manage limited ammo.
Overall you’re coping+seething, keep on doing that

[Steelbeast]

@ron_23

then complain to those countries that they never build a mach2 atgm

First of all KH-38 is not ATGM… it would hardly ever be used against low value targets as tanks.

But if Kh-38 can be deployed against tanks in WT, why not the Mach 3 AGM-88, which can also hit ground targets using its milimeter radar.

Also other nations has different features on their weapons to compensate for less impressive kinematic performance:

Radar guided Hellfires… Denied
Radar guided Brimstones… Denied
Optics guided Spikes… Denied
Top attack profile for most western ATGMs… Denied
Buddy lasing… Denied

Gaijin created such criteria for adding new weapon systems that is suits the Russia the most.
Lets not add any advanced guidance methods (radars, LOAL) and stick to the simple guidance methods (IR, beam riders, etc) where Russia has kinematic advantage.

[Whisloy]

@tripod2008

Please locate the components that form part of the high pressure loop of the Hydraulic system in the above picture.

Electricity is not a part of turret rotation system ?

@tripod2008

which is part of the low pressure loop, and as such is not a critical element of the drive system.

You just spewing nonsense it’s just nothing in the game that “module” has no effect on anything maybe it can cause fire but it’s stands next to the engine and fuel tanks it has no effect at all.

@tripod2008

The I doubt that the upper section of the autoloader ( mechanism used for the gun ramming ) can rotate both independently of the Gun barrel, and the carousel,

Upper part what ? The loading mechanism ?

@tripod2008

It’s only fair.

Oh wow let’s rip off Gen 2 thermals from every Apache in game that’s fair to oh wait it’s not because we must consider it’s effectivness

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@ExcaliburSniper

Overall you’re coping+seething, keep on doing that

Idk man, i think the only one coping with anything here is you, i am pretty happy with the game.

[MotorolaCRO]

@Ion_492

I think you’re just making things up to prove your own biases against the real life nations of China and Russia at this point.

Honestly it took you a while to figure this out.

[ExcaliburSniper]

I’m sure you are, I prefer fair competition myself but I know some people prefer sealclubbing without skill
Good thing you can hide behind an entire country’s inferiority complex to do that

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@ExcaliburSniper

I’m sure you are, I prefer fair competition myself but I know some people prefer sealclubbing without skill

I play 95% top tier, such sealclubbing.
For more than a year i barely touched Russia.

@ExcaliburSniper

Good thing you can hide behind an entire country’s inferiority complex to do that

What am i hiding behind ?
Seems like the others are right, you have some weird real life hatred for those nations going on and come here to cope.

[ExcaliburSniper]

Well there you go, just like you can’t accept objective facts about the game you can’t fathom sealclubbing existing at top tier because ‘uhhh like it’s top tier bro?’
Cult like behavior