How about you use some. Look at the winrate overall for the Turms, its partner in crime. Terrible premium players with no lineups, one death leavers, USSR getting crushed at 10.3 (lowest winrate of all nations here). It’s not the damn vehicles. It’s the players. And the good players who do jump in the 2S38 are hampered by the loss of their team in the first few minutes of the game. A support vehicle needs a solid foundation to support, and USSR 10.3 has none of that. I won’t even touch that terrible BR for USSR.
@Grossaaaa
Thanks for repeating my exact take on Vikhirs from 2022.
This isn’t 2022 anymore, they cannot be spammed.
There isn’t heli PVP making the highly effective against helicopters moot.
The other two are still true which is why I said the Vikhir is longer range and faster. Glad you agree with me entirely about those two facts.
Also the Mirage 2000 has a superior flight model to the Mig-29 and always has.
I even battled against others proving my claim that the Mirage 2000 is better than the Mig-29.
If you think I’m wrong about Mirage 2000 we can fight right now and I’ll quickly prove to you that information has always been correct.
Mirage 2000 > Mig-29. - Me, since 2022.
How about you use some logic?
You have 10.3 premium lineup. People play with 3 vehicles.
T-80UD is doing good.
and trums with 2s38 are doing bad. Same people, different vehicle.
Same thing with people here on forum - we have here a lot of skilled players who do good with all kind of vehicles. Yet everybody here is doing bad with 2s38.
There was ONE (1) person here who posted positive K/D in it.
bUt iT’S sUpPoRT VeHiCLe - you all literally were screaming how 2S38 is decimating all MBTs and that it is overpowered death machine, and now it “nEeDs sOLiD fOuNdATiOn”? Get real.
Dang, I feel called out.
The 2S38 is fine for its BR. It’s as effective as Begleitpanzer for their respective BRs.
i am not talking about you, please don;t interfere with our conversation, thanks
Not many USSR vehicles around 10.3 are very good into M1s and 2A4s, and the support USSR gets scales into the T-80B and T-90A, neither are stellar vehicles themselves. Yes I’ve seen some special creatures playing the TURMS AV and the 2S38 has to be played like a hyper-aggressive wumbo to get the value from the 57mm while being made of cardboard and explodium-concentrate.
Of course the 2S38 (and BMD (and BMP-2M)) are complained about the most because they’re overrepresented, they’re more fun than trying to compete with NATO race cars in streetfights with a 7.1 sec reload and the gun handling of a battleship.
Win rates are never the vehicles.
look at all this bias with russia having horrendous win rates from 9.3 all the way to top tier
with the worst win rate at top tier currently
@TheDudesRug
Think this is a good example of it being a decent support tank?
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/370513260827500894
Is clear at this point gajin wants to please all the americans whales that pays the most. Most of soviet tanks, planes and helicopters are hot garbage compared with the us/german ones. I dont see anybody crying about the RDF one shoting all soviet tanks from any angle.
No need RDF, yesterday head-on a 10.0 Bradley and got popped from this angle
Because they don’t. If t-series are even slightly angled, those shots will not pen. The only non head on kill shot is between the tracks and era (avoiding the era) on the angle that БЕИ just posted.
I mean yea what did you expect? A russian owned game making the russian tech tree OP from some bs player faked sources? Look at the russia ukraine war and look at how the russian tech is handling against the west. Its cheap garbage only reason they are still fighting is because of Iran giving them the shahed drones so they spam it and deplete ukraines air defenses and than launch their soviet era weapons to them lol.
Holy skill issue. Sure top tier Russian tanks are not the best, but they are not “hot garbage”. Low winrates are mostly due to FOTM effect of the new AAs.
But I guess this is just a typical LoL-LoL take…
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the US CLAWS which also have a missle faster then Mach 2… German IRIS-T almost mach 3… so is the japanese missle also Mach 3. China Mach 2 and also Sweden mach 2 aswell. Currently the Pansir have bugs and it isn’t the most powerful one it currently mostly the 2nd powerfulest. And NO the pansir can’t launch that far 30km… that crazy. The american CLAWS which can literally launch at 25km which is very far with it radar missle. So pretty much I don’t see any Issues anymore it isn’t the most mauneverable missle anymore as well. Other SPAA from levithan update are harder to evade.
Tbf he spoke about “ATGMs” (I think he mean A2G - the KH-38) and you quote SAM missiles…
Whatever, let’s just wait for his response.
russian bias is trite to me but holy jesus calling russian helicopters “hot garbage” compared to US ones is a nuclear take
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Well, technically, you can say that now if you forget about mi28mn ofc. Funny statistics. I couldn't even think of something like this before.
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