Taking a quote as what I said, lol, learn to read my guy.
Shame that I did not bring it up the Gulf War in the first place, you can thank GALWAYLION for that. To that same end, yes the M60A1 is inferior to the T-72M1 and equal to the T-62M, and guess what, it absolutely obliterated both of these vehicles in real combat, its almost like inferior vehicles with superior crews and tactics can win, fancy that.
Once again someone else has tried to inject themselves into a conversation without understanding any of the prior posts. I would implore you to actually go back up the comment chain and educate yourself as you are currently making a fool of yourself.
He was talking tank quality , you yapping about Tank crew skill ? Ok but who ask bro
Damn my bad , sorry for that, I didn’t bother to read wall of text about Gulf War above. My bad gang
I literally just confirm what you said above , what is bro yapping about
I mean I don’t need to inject myself that much , you will bring me in anyway. I could try make a fool out of myself but I can’t make a bigger fool than one that already here , you for example. My man so good at being one that I get disqualified despite not even signing up for the competition.
Farming T-55s I see, congratulations.
You failed to notice that difference between RISE (P) and T-72A is much less than what latter had to deal with against M1s.
I don’t recall being the one to begin this line of conversation with you, last I checked you were the one responding to me. You have some amazing object permanence since this was literally 5 posts ago, or are you an alt account to MotorolaCRO since thats whom I responded to.
So you interject yourself into a random conversation, add nothing productive and then feign victimhood.
Get back to me when you actually have something worthwhile to actually add.
And you seem to willingly omit the fact that those 250 T-55/T-62M1s were predominantly T-62Ms and those T-72M1s were still killed by an armor group of only 70 M60A1 RISE(P)s. I already told you the total number of T-55s in the Republican Guard earlier on, I’m hoping you can remember that. Or just keep gaslighting yourself thinking that the IRG only fielded T-55s, I regret to inform you that wont change reality.
Even if we put it full in a 1 V 1 situation, those 70 M60s vs the 70 T-72s, those M60s took no losses, that is an infinite KDR for the Marine Corps sporting what you have now willingly admitted is a closer matchup.
So now remind me, why did those same exact T-72s and T-62/55s roll over the M60A1 AOS+s of the Iranian Army shortly before this? Reminder as well, the ERA of the Marine M60s is irrelevant since Iraq fielded 3BM9 and 3BM17, both are kinetic rounds and the early RISE(P) ERA does not assist in defeating kinetic rounds.
Curious too that in both conflicts the M60 equipped side had air superiority yet the Marines suffered no tank losses to enemy fire but the Iranians did, weird, I was told earlier on that air superiority was the only reason the US forces were winning, I wonder why the same thing did not occur for Iran.
Never said that, please don’t troll and don’t put words in people’s mouths…
Of the ones you mentioned the first two (Tiger 2, the T26E5,) I always manage to destroy them or cripple them and then destroy them, unless I miss my aim they survive, while KV I often survive even if they are within the vehicles assured destruction radius.
If you mean operation Nasr it was because Iraq employed better strategy. Way better strategy. I won’t go into details /describe the battle… but it had nothing to do with tank vs tank battle. In fact, it was one of the modern battles that showcased how much vulnerable the tanks were/are .
I studied that battle when i was trained in anti-tank missiles…
Let’s say Iran just walked into a slaughter. They were not prepared about…anything.
Also, the M60 or T62/T72 is a piece of equipment. Good or bad. Without good strategy /training won’t get you far. Iran’s air superiority on the matter , was nothing close to what US had.
Thats almost like the thing I’ve been harping on this entire time. People here have kept trying to solely compare the vehicles as is, omitting the superior tactics and experience that certain nation’s crews have.
The Marine M60s did not win because they had better equipment, they succeeded in their attack against a numerically superior foe through both the skill of the USMC tankers and the superior tactics and strategy employed by coalition forces. By comparison, Iran’s armor was critically misused and suffered terribly due to it.
I am in total agreeance, armor is only as effective as it’s crew, tactics employed and it’s support.
It is, and he knows because he also cried about the change in relation to the Magic 2 in the Rafale thread, but since he also wanted to cry about russian bias he decided to come here.
Essentially he’s not happy about actually having to work to defeat these missiles now.
