Russian Bias in 2025?


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^ Proceeds to trot out a load of ‘Whaboutisms’ and Bad Takes. The best you can do with many points is just aimlessly trot out ‘So What’. If I provide sources you’ll just jump onto another hobbyhorse or give that intellectual killer-blow of ‘So What’.

If that’s the level of intellect I’m dealing with I might as well have a discussion with my Labrador. Off you trot back to Arcade and have fun now.

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I forgot about the M1 lower plate no spall bug that was happening for like a year, also Type 90 turret front not spalling too.

What was it with the 2K and T29 that was bugged tho?

You came to that conclusion based on your own preconceived result. Nothing I said indicates that.

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M1: All hull ammo was blowout on release, even the 3 round ready rack.

2K: mantlet was a black hole sending any dart to the shadow realm on release

T29: iirc also had some issues where it couldn’t be ammo racked.

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Literally the dev blog explaining why they were adding basket makes the point for me;

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The key difference here is that if they still have a shot loaded, Eastern tanks get to freely lay their gun and shoot back, where an M1 or Leopard has to sit and reflect on their life choices.

also the Gun rammer, modeled (part of the autoloader) that is attached to the Breach, shouldn’t be able to rotate if the module is damaged, anyway So it would actually make sense here as I doubt the turret is going to tear itself apart trying to rotate with a damaged Bearing.

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Don’t blame us because Gaijin can’t name rounds correctly…Looks at Object 292 with the realistically named “152mm APFSDS”

What about CR2 having all of it’s stored ammo modelled as HESH for like 6 months…You Russians have never suffered

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And you’ve never used russian equipment especially at CR2 levels.

The russian kit is pretty damn garbage as well if im honest with you bud

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I don’t doubt it, all nations have some crap tanks. But Russian vehicles don’t tend to be stuck with game breaking bugs for months.

No, i am just dismantling your claims.

Yes because they prove nothing, you just say a bunch of things without providing an argument why those are bias. I could literally do the same and “prove” to you italy bias…

No. This just means that you know that even if you provide those sources they wont make your claims more valid by the slightest.

XD. Insulting and projecting does not make your case better.

EVERYTHING you said indicated that.

Oooh so there was another bug with it.

hmmmm something common with german tanks… must be bias! Oh waitit is not a russian tank, then its just a funni bug.

Same as the Ho-I then that for some months could not be ammo racked (even these days it is hard to do sometimes)

Because?

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They just say stupid things to justify then bending over to bad players’ cries.

You can still aim with your hull.
If you hit them right they will die in 1 shot. if you dont then you should not expect to get rewarder for it.
This is just skill issue. Learn to aim.

This is just a situation where no matter what they do you guys would still have problems.
If they implemented turret baskets to them you would complain why dont they have autoloaders modelled.
If both are then they would be just nerfed too much, as they already struggle a LOT.

As i said before, systems that reward bad play and punishes good play should be removed.

It is not a naming issue, the L23 APFSDS does not exist.

The 292’s APFSDS was likely a prototype with no name.
IIRC most autocannon shells are the same with just generic names.

What about the Pvkv IV having comically small ammo modelled despite using the same ammo as the Pvkv III with much bigger shells.

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Also Pvkv IV is incorrectly classed as a medium tank despite it being a TD (even it’s name literally means that).

What about the Dicker Max having 26 shells but only 16 charges and 12 projectiles modelled

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What about the Sturer Emil having 15 sgells but only 13 charges and 15 projectiles modelled?

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What about the Flakpanzer I having only 2 magazines out of it's supposed 16 are modelled?

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What about the Flakpanzer 38t having a way too small ammo rack modelled and also the 3 magazines on the gun mount not being modelled?

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What about the Ratel 20 having comically small 150 round magazines modelled?

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What about the M16 having way less than 4800 ammo modelled?

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What about the M13 having even less ammo modelled?

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What about the CM52 having way less ammo modelled?

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What about the CCKW having way less ammo modelled?

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I am not russian.

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Even if we take that as true, it proves nothing.

They have in the past mate.
so lets not go there.

You are making it out as if Russian tanks are the best BR for BR and they just aren’t.
It used to be the big 3 that got treated extremely well.
Now adays it tends to be Germany and USA that get the treatment.

Sources do tend to back up claims.
Thats how providing evidence AKA sources works.

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You misunderstood me. Even if he proves with sources every single claim he made, it does not prove russian bias.

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If he provides sources to infact back up his claim.

He can prove it xD, your sentence literally argues against the point you are making

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Flaming hell - now I KNOW you’re just trolling.

'Your Honour - we were able to provide multiple witnesses, a photo of the gun in the man’s hand, the murder victim’s blood all over him, all the DNA evidence we could ever ask for plus he signed a confession saying he did it. ’

Meanwhile ONO Gameplay

‘IT PROOOOVES NOTHING!’

‘SO WHAT?’

He claims that those he listed prove bias.
Even if he proves that those claims he made are true, that still does not prove that there is russian bias, they only prove that his claims are true, but not the conclusion that there is bias.

it literally does not

I am not.

This is not comparable. The case i provided above is more comparable.

Sadly we dont have the original forums or all the evidence you need would be there.

Including fun videos of a CR1 shooting a T-80U in the side 7 times and the ammo still didn’t detonate.

Soooo… let’s play the contrarian’s game.

HESH Nerf - this happened before the old forum was shut down and the old bug report system was updated. The

The 106mm HEP performance data was what Gaijin said they used to nerf all HESH rounds. A bug report on the Russian WT forum showed that 106mm HEP was capable of spalling armour 1.43x it’s own caliber until meeting angles of 60° - where it could only spall 1.13x it’s own caliber. So the 106mm has historically accurate HEP performance in-game.

However, they didn’t give other HESH shells the same performance as the 106mm HEP, for other guns they left the old values for angles up to 60° and then decreased the multiplier (even lower than 1.13x) at angles of 60° and over which explains the differing performance of shells like the 105mm compared to the 106mm.

AFAIK the British 105mm HESH shells have the wrong amount of explosive filler and their TNT equivalence isn’t even listed like the other guns.

The Conqueror’s 120mm HESH is supposed to be able to spall 120mm at 0° and 163mm at 60° ( Source ) which means a multiplier of about 1.36x for 60° so if the 165mm shell has a similar design the penetration could be 165mm at 0° and 224mm at 60° but then again it has a hell of a lot more explosive power than a 120mm.

CROMWELL - * Missing internal armor plates: The Cromwell was missing a historical 12.7mm internal armor plate on the turret, which would have increased its effective frontal turret thickness.

A specific issue was also reported on the Gaijin forums regarding the missing 12.7mm inner plating on the turret ring area. Looking for linky - again old forum, old bug system.

PANTSIR not being the best SAM at introduction.
Weakspots negating NERA arrays.

Sorry - your take is based on Arcade where all of the mechanics (including aiming at pixel weakspots) are simplified. You might as well be arguing how ‘easy’ brain surgery is because you are a dab hand at Operation.

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Your counters are all weak and pretty shonky. They appear to have been written by an AI. Please tell me you’re not using ChatGPT?

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funny how almost every bias cultist doesnt even mention any of the BS russian tanks have to suffer through

unfortunately, its designed this way - ammo detonations are literally random lmao

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