are they 9.3 or 9.7? btw the osa also can counter the ka50 it is also in other 2 nations aside of the russia.
AGM-114s have always been as good as Vikhrs, especially shortly after Vikhr’s addition they were nerfed to 8km, and only gained their 10km back over a year later.
Less exposure means nothing when you’re not facing SPAA to begin with.
You only pop up in Ka-50 when there’s no SPAA, same as AGM-114 carriers.
Also the spawn rules were changed because of Mi-24D, not Ka-50. S-13s were wild, but it was the S-24s that caused havoc at 8.7.
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Just 2 nations, others would suffer.
They don’t suffer though. Over 5 tech trees have counters to Apache and Ka-50.
8 have counters to Apache and Ka-52.
3*, btw dont act like the ka50 players are always 10 km away, most of the time they will be well under 8km as the optics are quite bad for those ranges, and there plenty of spaag can counter it at those ranges around 10.3/0, btw only 3 sam under 10.0 can realistically counter the hellfires as manpads cant get a lock over 3km
Funny, it still works fine on my F-16AJ…
Un like Mavericks that only got added to:
F-5e
F-16A
F-16c
F-4e
F/A18C late
F/A18C early
A-7d
A-7K
A-10a
a-10a late
a10c
Av8b+
av8b(na)
f-20
F111F
F15E
F4F
F4F ICE
Hunter F.58
F-16AJ
F-5E-FCU
F-5TSCU
F-16A OCU
JAS39C JP
JAS39C UK
F-5E china
F-16 MLU
AV8B+ Italy
JAS39EBS
F-16A France
F-16AM France
netz
ayit
Kurnass 2000
F-15I Raam
netz(mod)
and lets not forget the Swedish ones that just have a different name
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And all of these can be easily killed and intercepted by Pantsir, also don’t tell me you’re comparing it with KH38 because it would be a dumb take.
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When my top tier SPAA was the Type 93, now Type 81C, its EXACTLY the same thing
especally the a10a that is always at top tier right?
Are you talking about Russia or japan here?
A10A is literal dogshit.
Prove that Pantsir can intercept F-15E/I, Su-30, Su-34, Rafale, and Mirage 2000D RMV being played correctly.
dont forget that the US has the lowest BR FNF weapons in the game…
clearly russian bias
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And what’s that?
Fire aNd Forget weapons
F N F
I’m saying the Kh38 is the same thing as any other guided air to ground weapon, being hit by a Kh38 is in no way different to being hit by a maverick. both out range current SPAAs. I just used my Japanese line up as an example, 6km max range… it doesn’t mater if I’m being shot at from 10, 20 or 40…or 1000 km.
Whats the practical difference between your Roland hit by a Kh38 from 30km at 12.0 and a Strela being bombed by a A-4-E TRAM from 16km at 10.3?
AGM 65 are also very strong but they are slower than a KH-38, from the time a Su-34 has released KH-38s. You have seconds before it hits what it is aiming at.
Being faster makes them harder to intercept and gives them a higher kill potential.
They also have a bigger warhead meaning front armour shots do not save you from a KH-38 whereas an AGM-65 will not always kill if it hits the front of a tank.
And then Su-34 has a 3000kg glide bomb too.
AGM-65 and KH-29 were pretty equally balanced…KH-38 is on a whole new level
And that effects the average tanker that has one dropping on his head how?
You blow up and its some how better if the weapon was flying for 2 min instead of 1.5?
Probably in the past but for the past year or two, that is not the case.
First lets talk about the Vikhrs capabilities in comparison to Hellfires
Helicopter's max BR needs to be increased - #10 by HondaCivici
Helicopter's max BR needs to be increased - #11 by rainy2000
I recommend people take a look at these posts as they address common myths or half truths when talking about vikhrs vs hellfires. If you don’t agree, tell me where the point of disagreement lies and we can have a discussion about it.
You could argue that the Ka50 isn’t good anymore and I could see your point. Gimble limitation along with no thermals limits your gameplay but because how powerful the vikhrs are, it’s the same BR as the YAH-64.
With the Ka52 it gets rid of those limitations and improves it’s multi-role capabilities by a lot.
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Because it gives you more time to react…smoke up or try and move to cover.
KH-38 gives you no time
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you see you could react to a kh-38 alot easier if it takes 5 minutes to get to you,
you just have to fullfill a few requierments for that:
- see the launch platform
- see it launching kh-38s
- realize it was fired at you
- smoke it
- drive away
same scenario with the agm-65:
- see the launch platform
- see it launching agms
you cant because they are smokeless, you die - realize it was fired at you
you cant because they are smokeless, you die - smoke it
- drive away
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