again the ah1z where able to do that before of the ka50, and they where quite numerous, basically at all matches you would see one that would wipe out the entire team.
Mate, the KA-50 was the most played vehicle in game…players didn’t even have tanks in their lineups.
Yes the AH-1Z was strong, it was nothing on KA-50 heli spam
again it being more popular doesnt make the up for the fact that the ah1z was added with no real aa counter as well, in fact at least the us had the adats, to counter the ka50s, and there was also a few other sams that could counter it at shorter ranges, thats already more than what we have to counter the ah1z.
Sure, so that’s your one example to challenge Russian bias.
I am responding to your claims that his post about the ka50 was disengenious, while using the launch of the ka50 which has nothing to do with the current state of the game, keep in mind that his post was directed to the “Ka 50 with it’s x12 10km missiles fighting 8km range SPAA in 10.7 lineups is disgusting.” not if it was balanced at launch.
Friend how many posts can you find online regarding how unfair the AH-1Z is compared to how game breaking the KA-50 was.
Gaijin changed heli spawn rules because of the KA-50
If you want to go that far back, the most OP cheese Heli in Ground RB was unironically the Mi-4AV
you know that we have a different forum and this is a 6 YEARS old issue, at the time you could find those quite easily.
yes, the same ones that the other previous helicopters abused the hell out of it and players whanted those changes well before of the ka50.
And again this has nothing to do with the current performance of the ka50, curently ka50 do have a SAM counter at its br or even lower
kinda, all low tier helicopters were pretty strong, the 40mm of the ah1s where also quite cheesy alongside of the hull break, i have always find the mi4 easy to shoot down even with tanks due to it’s size and speed
No but we stated clear examples of Russian bias and the KA-50 was one of them.
Now instead we have Pantsir and swarms of KH-38 slinging aircraft.
not really
all helis were laughably fragile, an Mi-24 being tapped by a 7.62 would cause the tail section to break off (in fact, iirc, someone tested shooting through the open troop doors of an Mi-24 with a 1 .50 cal round and the whole thing exploded) and hitting an AH-1G anywhere would cause it’s wings to snap off
the Mi-4AV was tiered so low you could 1st spawn it with ATGMs at top tier (other Helis couldn’t at the time) and there were no ATGM range or launch limits.
no… he was listing CURRENT russian bias, not 4 years old ones, as his statement was that “Ka 50 with it’s x12 10km missiles fighting 8km range SPAA in 10.7 lineups is disgusting”, his claims is that the ka 50 doesnt have a counter at lower br, but the ka50 does have counters, so bringing up the launch of the ka50 is actually disingenuous, btw if you want a counter to it’s “bias” claims then it is no more op thet the 10.3 helicopters with hellfires.
Strela and OSA do exist in 10.3.
are they 9.3 or 9.7? btw the osa also can counter the ka50 it is also in other 2 nations aside of the russia.
AGM-114s have always been as good as Vikhrs, especially shortly after Vikhr’s addition they were nerfed to 8km, and only gained their 10km back over a year later.
Less exposure means nothing when you’re not facing SPAA to begin with.
You only pop up in Ka-50 when there’s no SPAA, same as AGM-114 carriers.
Also the spawn rules were changed because of Mi-24D, not Ka-50. S-13s were wild, but it was the S-24s that caused havoc at 8.7.
Just 2 nations, others would suffer.
They don’t suffer though. Over 5 tech trees have counters to Apache and Ka-50.
8 have counters to Apache and Ka-52.
3*, btw dont act like the ka50 players are always 10 km away, most of the time they will be well under 8km as the optics are quite bad for those ranges, and there plenty of spaag can counter it at those ranges around 10.3/0, btw only 3 sam under 10.0 can realistically counter the hellfires as manpads cant get a lock over 3km
Funny, it still works fine on my F-16AJ…
Un like Mavericks that only got added to:
F-5e
F-16A
F-16c
F-4e
F/A18C late
F/A18C early
A-7d
A-7K
A-10a
a-10a late
a10c
Av8b+
av8b(na)
f-20
F111F
F15E
F4F
F4F ICE
Hunter F.58
F-16AJ
F-5E-FCU
F-5TSCU
F-16A OCU
JAS39C JP
JAS39C UK
F-5E china
F-16 MLU
AV8B+ Italy
JAS39EBS
F-16A France
F-16AM France
netz
ayit
Kurnass 2000
F-15I Raam
netz(mod)
and lets not forget the Swedish ones that just have a different name
And all of these can be easily killed and intercepted by Pantsir, also don’t tell me you’re comparing it with KH38 because it would be a dumb take.