You say that like it wasn’t the exact same problem with mavericks, PGMs and walleyes before the Kh-38 was added.
Other nations do need equivalents
PUMA has ERA, composite armour, active protection system and external ammo storage. 2S38 has 100mm of extra pen but is a giant ammo rack.
TURMS-T is a T-72A (9.3) with thermals, it has the same round as the T-72B, but FAR less armour in both the hull and turret. UD needs to go up, its a T-80U with out thermals that’s not enough to justify it being 1.3 BR lower.
Gepard BR is mostly based of clown that use it as a tank destroyer, that said is has FAR better radar, longer range, harder hitting and more accurate guns
Not too long ago Russias SPAA had a gap from 3.3 to 8.0 (I don’t include the ZSU-57-2 as that thing is a TD pretending to be an SPAA) it was an issue with ALL nations SPAA lines.
They also have slow reloads and their guns are getting luck luster at their BR, yes they are a pain when you are up tired to fight them, but they are also painful to play we you are up tiered in them. that’s a compression issue, not bias. I will point out they are the same BR as the 20lb gun Centurions that are fully stabilized and can just LOLPEN their turret and LFP
These points are very reasonable and I greatly appreciate you taking the time to address them in a civilized manner.
I think this sums it up perfectly. I did state in my post that I don’t believe in Russian bias in but rather I think Gaijin is incapable of properly balancing their game or listening to their playerbase. The absolute wreck that is top tier right now is completely unacceptable. The compression of cold war tanks still fighting WWII tanks is ridiculous. The gaps in certain nations capabilities for lineups where they have historical vehicles that could fill those gaps is ridiculous.
There are so many imbalances in this game and not even the majority of them are with the Russian tech tree, so I can admit that. I just listed my greatest annoyances with the Russian tech tree that make me despise fighting them more often than not.
My point about the T80 and TURMS was more that I was excited that 9.3 was getting some breathing room but the 2S38, T80UD, TURMS, Su25K, BMP2M powerhouse lineup prevented 9.3 from getting any relief.
Your Ka-50 post is disingenuous when it was added only 2 nations had SAMS that could intercept it.
The USA ADATS and 2S6
and when the ah-1z was added there wasnt a single spaa that could intercept it… your point?
Hellfires are and have never been anywhere near as good as Vikhrs
And they were never offered on a premium helicopter like the KA-50 which meant far less exposure
I think their point was the 1Z was a menace when it was added because it only had Hinds as contemporaries
It was also tech tree only
But this was early on when helicopters were just being rolled out.
did you ever play top tier at the release of the ah1z?
the only counter were gepards and shilkas.
I did and the AH-1Z was no where near as numerous as a KA-50!
Main reason was the player had to grind out the whole US Heli tree and not just buy their way in with the KA-50.
Remember as well KA-50s when added could spawn with ATGMs 2 or 3 would just destroy a team.
AGM65 got nerfed days after it massacered the Russians, but KH38 didn’t get touched at all infact they added multiple platforms that can carry them which is absurd.
again the ah1z where able to do that before of the ka50, and they where quite numerous, basically at all matches you would see one that would wipe out the entire team.
Mate, the KA-50 was the most played vehicle in game…players didn’t even have tanks in their lineups.
Yes the AH-1Z was strong, it was nothing on KA-50 heli spam
again it being more popular doesnt make the up for the fact that the ah1z was added with no real aa counter as well, in fact at least the us had the adats, to counter the ka50s, and there was also a few other sams that could counter it at shorter ranges, thats already more than what we have to counter the ah1z.
Sure, so that’s your one example to challenge Russian bias.
I am responding to your claims that his post about the ka50 was disengenious, while using the launch of the ka50 which has nothing to do with the current state of the game, keep in mind that his post was directed to the “Ka 50 with it’s x12 10km missiles fighting 8km range SPAA in 10.7 lineups is disgusting.” not if it was balanced at launch.
Friend how many posts can you find online regarding how unfair the AH-1Z is compared to how game breaking the KA-50 was.
Gaijin changed heli spawn rules because of the KA-50
If you want to go that far back, the most OP cheese Heli in Ground RB was unironically the Mi-4AV
you know that we have a different forum and this is a 6 YEARS old issue, at the time you could find those quite easily.
yes, the same ones that the other previous helicopters abused the hell out of it and players whanted those changes well before of the ka50.
And again this has nothing to do with the current performance of the ka50, curently ka50 do have a SAM counter at its br or even lower