None of these sales are even good, 30% is a slap in the face. The only “”“good”“” thing that you get out of these sales is stuff that’s removed and only comes around and you are paying full price for them.
They even did the russia armed forces sale which was 30% on vehicles that pretty much all went on 50% sale like 2 weeks later, its more a fleecing than something to look forward too.
Its still something compared to what most other nations get tho.
There is still the FIM-92A, which would only get partial improvements (lacks hard data for the Seeker, but is generally 5km vs 8~9km + UV Optical Contrast channel for POST seeker variants [-92B and later]) that they could downgrade the systems too if the BR was truly an issue. Which to some degree it isn’t since most SPAA should come down to make it harder for CAS anyway I 'd be all for rebalancing them around this though.
It’s really not since the Igla gets it’s “English bias” maneuver for whatever reason (Sparrows & AMRAAMs should be similar) and so has much superior off bore capabilities.
I mean what nations don’t get multiple crappy 30% sales and FOMO premium events spread out through the year?
Brother it has a caged seeker, what are we talking about here with off bore shots. K stinger gets uncaged seeker + larger proxy, in no world is the igla going to be better.
I agree that pretty much most spaa could drop .3 br and it be fine except things like the 2s6, glad the rolands finally moved down to 10.0. There’s a lot of 11.7 SPAA that could easily go down.
You don’t even know this guy have really bad takes like he googles AIM-120C7 range and applies it to ground based launcher it’s really bad or really good rage bait.
Well i think Harrier event had really good discount’s like rank 7 Night Attack and Sukhoi event goes max to Su-7BMK rank 6 which is kinda stinky CAS.
Ehhh can’t agree igla is easy to slam into ground withouth lock angle
Well these shots somehow hit.
Basically what happens is that it almost immediately upon launch performs a maneuver to zero out the angular rate error in the missiles heading before accelerating greatly simplifying the intercept course it flies.
You can also see it in the engagement, it’s certainly not coming out of the tube, straight.
Using personal stats is the best way to see if someone is just throwing around random BS because of his biases.
This makes no sense to the point I hope (for your own good) that you’re just trolling.
Your stats in USSR vehicles are pretty much in line with your account average performance, so how come you didn’t get that biased, handheld experience ?
If your stats backed up your claims I might’ve believed you’re talking from experience and not just parroting some decade old “arguments” as they suit your narrative.
ZSU’s missile has literally that single advantage over the current Stinger, meanwhile it has loads of cons, so saying Stinger isn’t way better overall is quite a bit wrong.
So yeah, if you solely engage planes from 0-500m away that are flying perpendicular to you then ZSU’s Igla is better.
There are definitely a multitude of common scenarios where the Stinger falls well short of what it should be, especially where you don’t have a solely retreating of approaching target to deal with. Which is much more useful for a conventional “SAM-bush” tactics, and performing wide area defense.
I’d love to by buying rope from you by the meter, at those distances even guns are going to struggle.
It’s the ~1.8-4 km, and beyond that there is still the Strela as an option which even the later Stingers don’t hold a candle to, as they are and even then still have sub-par kinematics in comparison even if they were faithfully modeled.
I was comparing it to the Igla found on the ZSU.
At those ranges Stingers are still better than what ZSU’s Igla offers.
Remember, Strela sits at 10.3 while Stingers can be found as low as 9.3.
And as high as? Don’t forget it’s basically the only option that many nations have in that range, it shouldn’t only be a comparison on the low end, it does after all have to pull double duty.
Since we don’t get access to systems like the FIM-43 Redeye or early / man-portable Strelas (though with the recent multi-crew additions it’s certainly an interesting option (e.g. BFAS / M6 linebacker being able to deploy dismounted launchers crews) to fill out the need for lower spec BR 8.X SAM options).
10.3 I believe ?
Some have inferior systems at 9.3/9.7, while others do at 10.3 but that’s sadly an effect from having so many different nations and BRs to cater to.
Those types of people were still claiming Russian Bias in Patch 1.81 with the IPM1/M1/AH-1Z’s sitting on a global 75-80% winrates and utterly demolishing every single match for months on end.
Don’t worry, that just was a “funni oopsie” from Gaijin, nothing to see there.
It’s only bias when a specific country they don’t like have something good, otherwise it’s all good and fine.
Outperformed how exactly?
Wow, they’re still immune after 2.7 years of having the feature? Who would’ve guessed?
They’re still bad helicopters for the SPAA present.
Rohnin is an average player and he’s more than welcome to be. Don’t statshame others.
If bias was real Rohnin would be better than your claims because he’s not maining Soviets.
@Whisloy
There is not and has never been Russian bias or USA bias or et cetera.
People when they find out I like female snipers. “Is this man a Russia defender?”
No, I just like the female form you weirdos. [Not directed at anyone I am replying to.]
They are not…
You neither have the Mi-28NM nor the new Z-10ME which is not a surprising considering the opinions you have.
Doesn’t also help the fact that the Z-10ME as a global KD of 2.0 which is much higher than the Ka52, and other FnF helicopters.
For a helicopter that requires LOS, and uses one of the the worst guidance system for AGM it is somehow one of the best in the game. I wonder why?
I’ve been facing Ka-52s and Mi-28NMs for years as well as using the Ka-52/50 for years.
The tests were extensively ran, and the datamines are 100% correct.
Keep claiming everyone [including yourself] are wrong for stating basic reality.
You and I are do not have wrong information no matter how many times you claim otherwise.
Helicopters are not immune to radar missile SPAA and never have been.
Correct, but they are unrealistically good against PD radars since gaijin doesn’t model the rotors signature realistically.
Against IR missiles, the Mi-28NM and Z-10ME can counter all of them.