Maybe when we get higher than 12.0 BR.
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DM53 L/55 can go through K5.
Because it would upset some people? Their holy tanks can get penetrated easily? No comrade we can’t have that.
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L/55 at pointblank range? further than that it can’t
even L/44 should be able to that hell even L27A1 should be able to (more than 1000m away)
do you know what anti ERA tip for apfsds mean? it not just raw penetration.
I never tested what’s the max range but it can definitely go through K5 at commonly found distances in the game.
So yeah, K5 is defeatable for years now.
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not in the way like it work especially for the round that have anti ERA irl
in game it just raw penetration anti ERA work different.
It still can go through easily, which is the only thing players will notice.
K5’s total immunity to rounds in the game is long gone, even DM53 L/44 and M829A2 can go through it in some cases, but it’s a dice roll.
I’m just telling why sometimes it can go thought it because “raw penetration” not because anti ERA non have that in the game even DM53 and L27A1
No wonder we don’t have that in the game, that mechanic isn’t out yet.
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you realise russian darts also incorporate those penetrators ? and dont have them ingame?
they cant even model volumetric right.
if you believe they are difficult to penetrate then i seriously suggest re-evaluating your playstyle.
I’ll have to go back and look again, I’ll do it later today.
It would only help them against certain other nations since the rest don’t use ERA meant for kinetic penetrators.
Stop shooting the frontal era lol it’s still a game we need balance. Idc about Russian era, my problem is autoloaders for now as the thread is about. The odd era black-holing a round on a side shot isn’t frequent enough to care for me.
If we want to discuss armor your focus should only be on Leo2a7s. They’re a cut above and still the same BR, and unequally applied for their advantages. As well as just in general. Better dart, mobility, reload and armor as well as survivability to ANY Russian tank.
you mean Anti ERA? interesting can you give me the source about Russian have one? i just see they do really have it (as for DM53 and L27A1 you can find in bug report section there a lot of documents there you can see and i’m not lying)
plus, even RU do have one it not gonna make any different because most western tank don’t use ERA
same can be use to Leopard 2A7/122 too
"stop shooting frontal UFP "
if you wanna play with this logic that is
100 percent agreed, and the STRV122+.
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I mean in not to say it would be useful in game, but to say they arent modelled in game for anyone at all.
Now back on topic with the auto loaders seeing as that is the topic, I think genuinely all auto loaders in this right now are tough, like i said with my japanese lineup, or frenchies like the lorrain 40t, theyre absolutely soaking more rounds than before extra modules were put into the game.
As for russian auto loaders, they for me are both a hit and miss.
they arent like before when the actual ammo would just go black on repeat. But they do sometimes help the surival of the tank compared to before.
Whilst also simultainously crippling it.
Stop shooting at the UFP of the most well-rounded tank in the game.
At least Relikt tanks are trading something for that hull armor lmao.
Youve got a major chip on your shoulder as soon as some one questions germany mate. the 2a7 and in turn STRV122s are the single best tanks in game and absolutely rofl stomp others, even when you aim for weak points.
and 3BM60 has a DU core, and as far as im aware the the mk2 variant of 3BM60 has a DU tip for penetration as they were preparing for as you know, facing off against Eastern european countries which most of whcih are armed with tank with ERA
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what? i just use the same logic here
or every enemy of RU tanks need to have entire frontal hull armor green for them like serving meat on silver platter for high lord Russian or something?
It tanks shots like it’s made of metal or something
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Bait.
What are you ona bout? youre going on like theres more than 2 good russian tanks xD the T72B3 is pathetic its juts a more armoured T72B which is still the same slow, slow reloading, poor reversing T72A from 9.3
the T80U is more mobile, the dart sucks, teh armour sucks, the reverse is 11kmph which still sucks.
the reload is still slower than every nato vehcile.
The T80BVM has some armour.
and the T90M is still a T72 under it all!!
the BVM is the only decent russian top tier, the 90M suffers the same as the rest of the T72 modelled tanks
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You do realize 2A7s have better frontal armor than any RU tank while also not suffering from crippling flaws those do ?
Seeing how you want everything to lolpen the hulls of RU tanks, I’ll ask you what do you want exactly, because balance surely isn’t it ?
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