They fix it on the latest version
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ok, I’ll go check it out, thanks.
“BUT BU……THE MAPS ARE FAVORED FOR RUSSIAN TANKS”
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Nah the manual loaders are pinned to the tank and have robotic arms. Must be
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Russian manuals with no proof of validity that look like they were made in basic paint aint proof for me either
Again the manual shows nothing, we dont know the test conditions, on a firing range with the correct gun position sure maybe again this aint no proof for anything
Because Nato tanks actually have a very good suspension system especially the Leopard 2… You want to compare the T80U’s suspention system to the Leopard 2a7v? What are we even talking about…
My source is based on what is available on the internet as information. There is official sources which claim something completely different. I’m not saying it cant achieve 6 seconds but only under absolut peak conditions. 6-8 rounds per minute is the number for the Autoloader. 6.5 was alrdy over peek performance reloading in a realistic scenario. If we take peek stats for vehicle I want the peek performance reloading for Nato Tanks if they have Elite Crew reloading. Blast door open or closed we alrdy need that elite crew to get quick reload times which is insane in the first place. I want my 12 rpm because it is obviously possible to manually load a gun that fast probably even faster under perfect condition.
Brother we can debate 20 mins about what the Russian glorious Autoloader that never fails and is perfect in every way. The reality is, I can show you footage that wouldn’t be accepted here that show you a completely different reality about that 50 year old Autoloader lol. I was also never talking about rookies. An elite crew is War Thunder shouldnt have rookie reload times that makes no sense… I bet my rear end I can reload a round with 2 hours training within 6 seconds and you could do the exact same. Doesn’t matter what Nato Tank with manual loading.
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I mean… You have the charts provided by the manuals of the vehicles. In a perfect world all T-80s would be at 5.9s, not 6.0, and the T-72s / T-90s should be at 6.5s instead of 7.0s.
Both of these are non-standard reloads. Either you can remove the hull of the Leo 2A4 and have nothing but a test stand with a non-functional turret added to WT, or you can completely remove all blowout functionality of the Leopard in turn for your faster reload.
Yesterday 7.1s —> 7.0s
Omfg my poor Abrams literally unplayable now uninstalling the game ru mbts too OP now after the buff
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you see, 0.1s makes the difference after 10 shots where you get a whopping 1 second difference as whole!!! MAJOR OP
So op… if youre in an urban setting, youre bound to get fucked because of the reverse anyway. While nato tanks can reverse much quicker and still have a better reload rate and pop up killing you that most of the yap here makes most arguments irrelevant
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Right, because hydraulics definitely care how fast the vehicle’s moving.
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Oh so you wanna tell me there is no stress on the Autoloader driving with 60km/h over rough terrain? That’s ridiculous. I guess the TSh-4 was made to make the Tank crew look good right? LOL
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Far less of a problem than with any human autoloader, at this scenarion any manual reload would be impossible to begin with
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Played a game with the ZTZ99A on breslau earlier today. Went straight down one of the roads near C and went 12-0 without having to repair once even.
The ZTZ99A isn’t as well armored as most of the russian T-series (bigger weakspots from my experience) and is still worse than the Abrams in a lot of ways despite the reload buff.
I can’t even imagine what I could have done if I was in an Abrams instead.
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Would you like to provide a figure / reputable source detailing exactly what effect speed has on any MZ pattern autoloader?
The TSh-4? You mean the helmet worn by the crew that isn’t tasked with reloading the cannon?
Can you tell me what helmet the autoloader wears?
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It’s the manual, so the crew reading it would set the needle valve on the hydraulic flow control valve for the MZ motor to cycle at that speed, because that’s what the manual tells them to do.
no matter how good suspension is inertia still exists, because physics is physics.
The whole manual is on the internet, go read it.
It’s not perfect, it’s a trade off, like everything in tank design, and it dose fail, on average every 3000 cycles.
Yeah, crew skills are a separate issue.
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What is the correlation between a tank crew’s helmet and the autoloader? Did the autoloader want a helmet too?
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Ok dude lol not even gonna reply to you mate
What do you think “Drawn in paint” means? it’s an expression that implies diminished intellect. Saying a group of people draws their manuals in paint is calling them stupid and given that it’s a racial group you are referring to, that is by definition racism.
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Well f I guess I called myself stupid than because I use paint pretty often. Sorry you took it that way
It’s a common expression/ insult where I’m from. But, sure, lets put it down as a miscommunication and move on and not derail things any more.
Edit: I removed the 1st part of my original comment too.
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What are perfect conditions? If tank drives at 70kmh, it won’t almost affect the loading time due to autoloader FIXED and MOUNTED on many things inside. But the human loader won’t load APFSDS in 5 seconds while abrams going on the same speed. But this buff just let soviet tanks exist on top-tier. About leopard… Yes, we have to find docs for it xD