Russia top tier tanks are miserable and there is no way to fix that

This probably a new one, I’ve added them to the list.

Bruh

Worthless and time consuming, this is USSR tech tree in summary, and not even the top tier worth the time, From the three ground vehicles, T-80BVM is the worst, Pantisir-S1 isn’t bad, it’s a 50/50 situation, due to the superiority of air vehicles at the moment compared to the anti air capabilities in the ground.

The air vehicles at the top tier isn’t far behind, the worst ARH missile in the game and the worst jet fighter at top tier. Except by Germany, Gaijin seems to be just forgetting about the existence of USSR and USA on the big three subject (off of topic but certainly worth mentioning, which undoubtedly holds the best air vehicles currently).

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USSR is not bad, T90M and T80BVM are a really great duo when used correctly, add to the mix that in a PLANE you really don’t get a launch warning if you’re against a pansir (Been against the pansir so many times) and yes, you get focused on, but the pansir is much more capable on defending the air in good hands than the flakrak that only has 2 missiles per reload.

Regarding the Air vehicles, the Su27SM is bad, they should have the Su30 already, but saying that the US is forgotten in the air sense? Brother they just got the F15E till the moment it was the LEAD vehicle in SIM, Air RB and Ground RB. Just now getting de-throned by the EF2K and Rafale.

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My mistake, I haven’t specified that I was referring to ground on that part of the statement, that’s why I mentioned that USA have the best air vehicles in top tier at the moment.

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US Ground can be a pain with the abrams, it also needs the SEPV3, but in reality the abrams is mostly against infantry in urban scenarios, the abrams shines in the BRAWL area of the game, its big, some spacious inside (Can eat some rounds if shot wrong) to me is a really 50/50.

Because you missed the point.

Crew skills make nato tanks OP

Can’t agree with the first part, can definitely agree with the second part.

play Israel, Italy, France, Britain.

Russia has unfairly highest armor protection among MBTs - unfairly because irl its ERA is surpassed by nato munitions - and you are still crying

I personally find the one that benefit the most by crew skills is the vehicle with unusually long reload, the IS-2 for example has 27 seconds reload time, we cut off 6 seconds from having an aced crew, and something like the KV-2 will have 10 seconds difference. NATO vehicles like the T32, M103 and FV4005 also benefit greatly from ace crews, the second best perks IMO is the repair crew which is a perk that benefits everyone regardless of their vehicle attributes.

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Laugh in Challenger2 yeah such a good brawlers

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Bruh Italy is the worst nation in game. The others aren’t all that bad IF you play them right

Well that’s what I’m saying.

Plus with how easy the auto loaders break now, it’s not fun to play Russia
Nor does an ace crew make reload any faster in auto loaded tanks

Me just currently grinding China :’)

In the Vikhr topic, I have noticed that I’ve relatively rarely died to them lately because they are generally used less anyway- most Russian players have switched to KH-38 carriers for CAS, so, while Vikhr may not be what it used to be, it was made up by KH-38s, I suppose.

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So those of us whom like helis get screwed while the Jet users get to reign supreme still?

That’s not the fairest thing tbh.

And? Even if crew points make things like reload and fixing the tank more “op” I still think that the T80’s and T80’s can pack a punch. He’ll even today I got good matches in the T80UK with 3BM42. You can always get around things like advanced crew if you play it right and don’t get swarmed into the Rush point.

Okay so haven’t you tried killing 2 pansirs in the enemy team using an F16C with Mavs? They destroy the Mavs, Brimstones too, even myself, I took my friends acc playing with his pansir and managed to destroy more missiles than what I do with the FlakRak. Or on ground, haven’t you got into a mixed battle, and suddenly your turret explodes because a random T80 shot you with HE, because you exposed 1% of the turret. Or, have you shot a T80BVM in the lower hull side, have done either 0 damage or the round just ricochets to the ground getting you killed. They are amazing tanks, with or without crew “buff”. Just have to know how to use them. I’ll say it again and again.

You constantly forget:

  1. Slower turret traverse
  2. Slower reload
  3. Slower reverse
  4. Commonly killed in 1 hit.
  5. Bad gun depression

If you flank blind players, (which is common) will mean yes you have a good kd match

Even with all the bad the Type 90 “Fuji” has, it’s still very potent no?

Pros:
Gun depression
Very quick reload
Hydraulic suspension
Only 481mm pen

What are the pros of the Russian tanks?
Armor

So your tank can put pace an aced crew Leo or abrams?

I killed one hitting the lower plate with HEAT-FS in my Leo2a4 for Italy. Guess what? It killed it in 1 hit.