Russia needs more stuff at 12.0

what are you talking about only germany, france and sweden have more 12.0 ground vehicles while china and isreal have the same number

that still puts russia as having more 12.0 ground than average

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Japan if you will, Italy has more vehicles to offer in the end-of-the-line battle ratings.

For now.

Russia can get completely ignored for the next 6-8 months and they’ll be just fine.

So can america and germany but i bet if that was said you would be saying other wise.

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They’re dramatically different, the TOR-M2 gets the 9M338 and instead of eight ready fire missiles it can carry sixteen ready fire missiles that have 16km range that can hit 1,000m/s, I think they also hit greater G tolerances, its radar is much more improved and can fire on the move.

Let’s see…

America needs competitive SPAA and the Abrams need to be fixed.

For Germany, they also need competitive SPAA but the Leopards while having some armor issues are still overall the top tanks in the game with the T-series and 122s.

Britain needs competitive SPAA and the Challengers need fixing.

Japan needs competitive SPAA and the Type 10s need fixing.

I don’t care about West Taiwan but people say the SPAA is mid and the tanks are mid too.

Italy needs competitive SPAA and the Arietes need so much fixing.

France; Same issues as Italy.

Isreal; Same issues as France and Italy.

Sweden; Pretty sure they just need better SPAA.

Cute flag abuse, btw.

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O_o definitely not 11.0 material

Britain onward I agree with you but thanks for proving my point. Also FYI RU at the top end is in dire need of support vehicles (ATGM carriers and light tanks specifically) and there are options for that but you probably don’t want to hear that as it goes against the Russian bias narrative you like to push in literally every thread I see you in.

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No, they don’t.

I also didn’t prove your point since I mentioned every other nation in the game bar Russia, which genuinely needs nothing for the next 6-8 months.

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Would be nice to see more T-80’s in the tech tree:
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Object 219
Object 219rd
Object 476
Object 478
Object 640
Object 785 (is it a T-80?)
T-80UD (early; kontakt-1 era instead of kontakt-5)
T-80UA
T-80UM1
T-80BVM (burlak turret)
T-80BV
T-80BVM (mod. 2023)

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So you saying that isn’t you there in the second quote doing exactly the thing I said you would in my original message, weird must have imagined it then.

Because unlike Russia, the other nations in the game have glaring issues with their lack of competitive SPAA and MBTs that need fixing. Russia has neither of those issues being Gaijin’s Chosen Nation.

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Could you inform me on why the Abrams’ turret neck is the biggest issue in the game according to the players? I mean, it still shouldn’t stop apfsds projectiles when fixed. Maybe will stop autocannon fire (below 40mm). But other than that, that change wouldn’t benefit much.

2S25M has the round and optics and good mobility (for russia) but the thing is tall as a nato tank with paper armor and 4 degrees of depression, it is really difficult to find a good spot to play that thing. Its a lot like the stryker mgs but has a manned turret, which is not great for suvivability. There is a reason its at 10.0 with 3bm60 and gen 3 thermals.

Khrizentema a lot of people like to say is awful, but it is russias only option for a tank you can play behind cover and be immune to dying to anyone unless they are smart enough to load heat, and I think its fine as long as you are playing it on maps that kind of vehicle excels at.

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Firstly, the turret doesn’t sit as high as it does in the game, making the turret ring more exposed than it actually is. Secondly, the turret ring is IRL immune to autocannon fire whilst in-game it is not. Additionally the armor protection is wrong as is the improper placement of modules like the turret drive.

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The US has only 2 identical tanks at 12.0 and that’s it.

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I see. It really seems like it should sit lower. Is the neck armor in the game under armored? Like should it be more than 50mm or does the thickness vary?

As they are, it should sit lower. Fix the issues and it can be justified that they remain where they are. Also, yes, it is under armored. The thickness is wrongly underestimated as well as the volumetric properties.

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Oh damn… I’ve been avoiding American grind just for that reason. Didn’t think it was this bad…