Russia needs more stuff at 12.0

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It’s not that common for ppl to spawn more than twice and if you aren’t trying to get into an overloaded Su-30/34 as fast as possible you’re playing Russian top tier wrong.

Most of these nations top tiers are 12.0 by technicality rather than all these vehicles are actually a match for the BVM (or 2A7). UK only has 2 12.0s (BN/2E iirc) and they’re not even that great, Chinas ZTZ99As are passable but neither god nor man knows why the VT4A1 is top tier, all of Frances Leclercs are all 12.0 because ??? while the base M1A2 is (somehow) 11.7.

If a game somehow came down to any 2 nations in particular throwing tank spawns at each other; USSR isn’t the worst.

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The SPAA doesn’t work. Pantsir is the only semi-competitive SPAA currently at top tier.

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I don’t like air rb at all and I’m not grinding that just to spawn it in ground rb, regarding UK I was convinced the challanger 3 was 12.0 until I checked and it is 11.7

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no

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yes

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Hello, I’ve seen the lack of 12.0 vehicles in the USSR TT, but I currently play Israel and usually bring 2 MBTs and 2 light vehicles. It’s obvious that having more MBTs would be much better for variety but yeah. To be honest, the 2S38 is quite good and you can bring it to top tier (if you have it) and I do have the T-80UD but I’m the worst thing I’ve ever seen with that tank, the playstyle might not fit me. You have the 2S25M with a good round and the Khrizantema-S. And then you have the AA.
I have to say though that the light vehicles aforementioned do not have spikes as some other light vehicles which may be a pain in the ass but I do trust the 2S38’s gun more than any 30 mm bushmaster.

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There are some Russian vehicles that can be added to 12.0:
Object 219m (arena-m aps)
Object 640
Object 195 (too op?)
T-90m (arena-m aps)
T-72BA (arena-m aps)
Bmpt Terminator (overtiered?)
T-15 armata (57mm cannon(

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Are you suggesting a leo 2a6 for USSR tech tree? I would like to see the burlak and black eagle in game. Both are capable of firing longer (sabot rounds longer than 745mm) ?

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bmpt terminator might be more 10.0-10.7 material

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Personally, I wouldn’t put it that low. Comparing it to Puma vjtf, the bmpt is more armored and has better choice of weapons. Somewhere 11.0 is good

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no >:(

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I don’t know much about it so I assumed it could be an equivalent of the puma, at 11.0 can be useful as a backup for the T-90a which is currently the only lonely 11.0 :(

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yes -_-

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aww :(

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Heard that tor-m1 might be coming to USSR tree so another 11.0 vehicle, possibly

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I hope they skip it for the TOR-M2

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I think I can safely say we brits and french would trade all of our top tier for something as favourably modelled as a russian MBT

play top tier with challenger 2/3 or with leclerc and you wont be whining so much

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yeah you’re right, 4 leclercs with 5 seconds autoloader and 2 leopards, and you cry for some -4 reverse T-90m?
See you’re the one whining here
Besides i play all nations so I’m not biased towards one in particular, I have France grinded till the amx 40 currently

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Wouldn’t that be basically a hq17? Or are they different?

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Russia doesn’t need anything.

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