Rooftop machine guns turn too fast

Which in real life is like an MG turning as fast as you can turn it.

Yea.
And? It is quite easy.
Making something pointless does not necessitate its removal. Quite contary. You cannot make something pointless by removing it. Because after removing something, it ceases to exist. And something that does not exist can not be pointless, as even something pointless needs to exist in order for it to not have a point. If something does not exist, it cannot even not have a point, as not having a point necessitates an existing object to achieve said point, even if the point does not exist. Therefore, something pointless needs to exist in order for it to be able to be pointless. Removal, or rather un-existing, something makes it impossible to be pointless. So as you can see, your demand to make something pointless is absolutely exclusive from your nonexistent demand to remove something, because you cannot demand to make something pointless while demanding its, the same somethings, removal, as the same something needs to exist in order for it to be made pointless.

As I said, Easy.

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No. Warthunder is not 100% accurate and its fine that way. If it was than were are the electronics modelled in aircraft and helicopters? Were are the hydraulic systems? This would mean any penetrating hit on any vehicle would either bring it down or force a repair and that sounds a bit like hell.

I didn’t say ALL planes. Learn to read, then learn to fly helicopters, then whilst your at it figure out your experience doesn’t represent all players

Yes if you’re advocating for a crew member to be exposed to turn the machine gun then I would agree with you whole heartedly.

Does slightly reducing the speed at which they rotate make them useless?

Yes, my point.

Currently roof top machine guns are too strong, they should be nerfed irrelevant to real life.

If you wish to qualify then do so.

Helicopters begin ~8.0 onwards.

What planes are 8.0+ that you find rooftop machine guns effective against?

You know how bad that sounds? This isn’t about nerfing machine gun’s rotation because they are inaccurate this is about you having a massive skill issue. Machine guns are far from irrelevant irl, why do you think all modern tanks have a coax and the majority have a roof mounted mg?

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You’re entire argument for a nerf is based on the fact that you want helis to be buffed.

Helicopters are fine as is, and you just need to get better at the game, then they wouldn’t be an issue.

I am sure you hate dying to things you cant really fight back against, so why make that more common?

Nah you’ve gotta be trolling at this point.

Basically anything thats larger than a 7.62. MGs are used more as a plane deterrent than a full weapon at that BR.

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Any that are stupid enough to dive towards me, along with skilless helicopter players like yourself.

Your example was about tanks pointing their MGs at you before you crest a hill or sth. Which the tanks coudl do no matter how slowly the MG turns. Unless it can not turn.

You fail on so many levels.

The only way for your example to not happen woudl be to remove the ability of roof MGs as well as tanks to turn around. Otherwise they will always be able to point their MGs at you.

The only way your “argument” makes sense is if you would die tu Mgs following your movements at close ranges.

Which is a range you should never be at with your Heli.

In short. Your inability to play helis is what leads you to demand such a change. Nothing else.

No nerf of roof Mgs would make any difference to a good heli pilot. Because roof MGs are not useable against good heli pilots in any meanigfull way.

To offer infantry support and to fight infantry. That is their current and original purpose.

Yes what else are roof top machine guns effective against, open tops?

And to provide defense against low flying aircraft aka helicopters and in the modern age, drones as well.

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If it’s not skill related then why do you care if the rotation speed is nerfed?

Machine guns aren’t effective against drones they’re too small.

In World War 2 they were found to offer some effective cover against strafing planes, and in the cold war they transitioned to being somewhat effective against helicopters.

In the modern age neither are in the gun range of tanks which leaves them back to their original purpose, infantry support.

Helis do not need to be buffed. Get better at flying them.

Higher calibre MGs are effective against lightly armoured vehicles, and can be used for obstacle clearing in war thunder, as well as a dterrent/weapon against flying vehicles.

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Because you have zero evidence that they should turn slower.

If roof mounted weaponry was not effective then modern MBTs would not have them mounted as that is the result of years of experience.A 50 calibre (12.7 mm) round is very effective and modern rounds can have explosive filler and all sorts of variations.Also a number of units firing together is very effective at not just taking CAS out but keeping them at bay.

All in all you are demonstrating a complete lack of knowledge on the subject and while in your head you are beating off all comers with your arguments you are just getting your ass kicked by every visitor to this silly post.

No offence.

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