If you mean the body, then no, it’s a regular Challenger 2
This particular tank was created in Germany, and precisely by Rheinmetall, not RBSL (As mentioned earlier), with permission from the UK to use the Ch 2 hull. That’s why I gave the Vickers example
It is the 2019 LEP tank you can even tell by the turret
Other nations vehicles are always being requested for the German tech tree, it’s kind of a meme at this point. I’ve seen it go as far as to them requesting the F-22 because they were stationed at a U.S. Air Force base in Germany, same with Su-25s from the Soviet Union.
Yeah it is quite ridiculous
I agree, however it’s not near as capitalized.
This was already suggest for British ground. Its the british branch of rheinmetal that made this and this features a auto-cannon, britain should get this. Just like the chally 3 is being made by the british not german aide of rheinmetal
Built by british Rheinmetal. There’s multiple lines, british german and i think other countries will join too soon.
Well someone from every nation wants something from another nation. No need to play to a bully program and specifically label germany players with it.
and yes…
this was me
I’m not trying to come off as a bully, thats not my intention.
How does Germany have a claim
They didn’t get what this tank was in 2019 the Challenger 2 LEP and RBSL is based in the UK but is just partly German owned.
How does a German company that tried to showcase a gun on a British tank should go to Germany when Germany wouldn’t never get this tank IRL as they don’t have Challenger 2 to upgrade and that no one has accepted use with the 130mm gun or made any requirements for this new gun. For all we know they Germany next gun that they use in what ever MBT they adopted could be a 140 or 150 we just don’t know
I think this is like that french Type-59 a while back…
Since it was a tank (originally) designed by russia, owned by egypt and modified by france, it can go to any of those TT’s
Edit: corrected name
I sure HOPE SO, unless they give it to hungary first… imma just quit at that point… or worse… pull a french 1789
It was a Chinese Type-59 that had French 105mm GIAT cannon
Ye this one
it was owned by Giat and not Egypt. The tank was a demonstrator to sell an upgrade package to Egypt on the T-62
the tank was a type 59, which is Chinese and not Russian.
as France solely made it, the T59 belongs in France only. it was an export venture with the same title as the AMX 32 and no longer belonged to China than the Tiran to Russia, Shot to the UK, and Magach to the USA. Gaijin already was clear about the variant. it goes to the country that used it, and if it was not used, it goes to the country that developed it.
it’s not because a country had built a chassis that the subsequent variant belongs to them
for the Rheinmetall 130mm on Challenger 2, this is different as it wasn’t simply a chassis that belonged to Rheinmetall, the tank was a test bed loan to Rheinmetall to develop an upgrade in the Challenger 2 LEP program which led to the adoption of the Challenger. I feel like it would be odd to see this tank in the German tech tree knowing it was developed for and funded by the British. it would also be greedy from the German players to steal a perfectly good top-tier tank from the British when it’s known the British have little option and the Germans have plenty (leopard 2A6, Leopard 2A7, Leopard 2A8, Leopard 2-140, KF-51, EMBT-2017, EMBT-2022) while the British have 2 vehicles competitively matching the top rank (Challenger 3, Challenger 2 130mm) if the german get the Challenger 2 with 130mm, there will only be one left while Germany already have 7 option and they have other sub-variants.
built by the British branch of Rheinmetall, in collaboration with BAE (55/45) which is the main British weapon industry, built on a British chassis, for a British upgrade program. I do not see how the result ends in the conclusion it should be German.
French 105mm gun, French signs, french thermal and laser, french grenade launcher, and option for the french engine and transmission which was way better. only the armor remains.
Germany gets the DF 105 but not France
German mains : that makes sense the hUlL iS mOrE iMpOrTaNt France don’t need it
(Some) German mains when they see a British hull with a German turret : TuRrEt iS gErMaN sO iT sHoUlD gO tO gErMaNy
Yep. Some pretty entitled people.
I say, let’s stay consistent. British hull, British program, German involvement → British tech tree only
Germany got the DF-105 because while it uses a French turret it was a project by the company Thyssen-Henschel.
Damn. That DF105 story doesn’t remind you of anything ?
Like a british project proposing to use a british hull with a foreign made turret ?
Also, did you know what DF105 stands for ?
Deutsche-France 105. Like, even the name states that France DID have involvment in the project. The EXACT same way rheinmetal was involved in this challenger 130 project.
I say, for consistency, this proposal should be British only
