Rheinmetall 130 mm Demonstrator - Future Tanknology

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Leopard 2 KWS III

no idea what that is but its not a real tank, its a fictional one
EDIT: if you mean this one, thats an mock up turret

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Leopard 2-140 / Pz87-140

that ones swiss so not garanteed for germany and could be a standalone or a sub tree for another nation for all we know

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KF51

the KF 51 and the chally 130mm are the exact same situation , both models not in service by any nation.
Even more so for all we know gajin might decide the KF51 to be hungary only since they wanna put a 120mm version into service

The only other real option is the embt 140mm, but that ones wayyyyyy more advanced then any other upscaled gun

So like i have proven the rheinmetal 130mm demonstrator has equal opportunity to be added for germany , none of them were realy prototypes or adopted for germany specialy

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@RemoveCASfromGRB

a lawn mower engine.

Sooo… just a standard Challenger engine?

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@x_Shini_

no idea what that is but its not a real tank, its a fictional one
EDIT: if you mean this one, thats an mock up turret

I’m not too knowledgeable on Germany tank development so I might be wrong and or missing info. But from my casual research for Up-gunned tanks the Leopard 2 KWS III and Leopard 2-140 are hard to discern which is which so I apologize for any wrong information.

@x_Shini_

that ones swiss so not garanteed for germany and could be a standalone or a sub tree for another nation for all we know

True. Also surprised Swiss tanks haven’t been added to the game yet either as sub-tree or event vehicles. Is there even enough Swiss tanks to justify a swiss tree/sub-tree?

@x_Shini_

the KF 51 and the chally 130mm are the exact same situation , both models not in service by any nation.
Even more so for all we know gajin might decide the KF51 to be hungary only since they wanna put a 120mm version into service

I’ve personally become extremely uninterested in “Tech Demo” tanks coming to this game given Gaijin’s abberant treatment and behavior towards the CR3 TD. Either way regardless of which vehicle and to who it goes to, is going to be a mess and some group of players are going to be upset. The CR2 130 will be treated just as bad as the 3TD is, its not going to be a enjoyable tank.

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The only other real option is the embt 140mm, but that ones wayyyyyy more advanced then any other upscaled gun

Inb4 next April’s fool event is similar to Warfare 2077 but they just have the next gen tanks. AbramsX, EMBTs, etc etc.

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even enough Swiss tanks to justify a swiss tree/sub-tree?

depends who you ask @Mahiwew there are very vocal voices for it, even if i think after benelux its very very unlikely

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The CR2 130 will be treated just as bad as the 3TD

not quite, the frontal additional armor very likely is the german revolution poack armor, SO it gets some additional turret armor

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@Godvana

On the other hand, the turret is an entirely new design by Rheinmetall and as such its protective qualities are unknown though if I had to guess I would say the protective qualities are somewhere similar to the Leopard 2PL and other Leopard 2 variants upgraded by Rheinmetall.

Nah, it;s the same turret base as cr2 and the cr3 td, just with a new frontal turret armour package

[Drag0oon]

Yes there are, scroll down to Switzerland here List of Previously Suggested Ideas - Other Nations Ground Forces

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@Fireball_2020

turret base as cr2 and the cr3 td, just with a new frontal turret armour package

so chally + revolution package

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@x_Shini_

not quite, the frontal additional armor very likely is the german revolution poack armor, SO it gets some additional turret armor

Won’t be enough evidence for Gaijin to model and armour improvements besides basic RHA.

Its a Tech Demo so Gaijin will pull the “Tech Demo” excuse and remove features because “It wouldn’t have these because its a demo tank”.

See 3TD removed features.

• Turret Spall Liners

• Blowout Panels

• Nerfed engine power based on the Production CR3.

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Nerfed engine power based on the Production CR3.

if i followed to whole thing right, the real chally 3 td wasnt able to use the engine power either

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• Turret Spall Liners
• Blowout Panels

a lot tanks dont have them, besides that with the 130mm cannon its a balancing factor honestly

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@x_Shini_

if i followed to whole thing right, the real chally 3 td wasnt able to use the engine power either

Its not about the 3TD having it or not. Gaijin goes and nerfs the engine BECAUSE the real Challenger 3 will have a 1200hp engine. The Real CR3 =/= 3TD. They have a double standard for the 3TD. Its gets features removed because its a demo tank, then gets nerfed based off the production tank.

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then gets nerfed based off the production tank.

again, the chally never had access to the power of the engine in the first place

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Im too stupid to explain it properly and its already been explained better by someone who follows CR3 stuff more.

Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion

The problem isn’t even about the 1200hp engine. It’s the fact they double standard it left right and centre. From my understanding the tank that IRL forms the 3TD did genuinely have a 1500hp engine fitted. There are issues with it, namely the cooling, but it was still fitted iirc. The problem is for me, that the justification for them nerfing it or “correcting” it is that on the Production version it has been confirmed in a Parliamentary Question that CR3 will have 1200hp engine (questionable …

[Rileyy3437]

There is always this thing which would have poor electronics for top tier but it would at least have better protection and a larger gun

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That’s an interesting find. Thanks for posting this.

[Surbaissemaxxing]

I’m happy to see that my post about the E.N.T is still recognized :)

[DevilO6]

That is like, very pointless comment.

[Rileyy3437]

Its cool as hell and sci-fi-esque.

Really well researched too and I’d literally never ever heard of it.

[Toxindragon]

@dotEXCEL

its mounted on a Leopard 1 hull

The NPzK used a Leo 2 prototype hull.
What kind of autoloader it used is known. Hull and turret armour would be copy-paste. Only information regarding the firepower is missing.

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@Toxindragon

What kind of autoloader it used is known.

I don’t think any autoloader was used as this was just a test bed to see how the Leopard 2 hull could handle a 140 mm gun, the rear of the turret just being full of ballast.

Though the fact that there is only one picture of it and no surviving parts makes me kind of suspicious of it’s existence.

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You have any pics for that?