I have AV-8A that has almost same FMs with Sea Harrier iirc.
You can do weird things with thrust vectoring, but it is still a harrier and there is little you can do when dealing with aircraft like the Kfir or F-5.
No one play top tier jet at altitude, you’re stuck at prop mindset.
Again did you play top tier jet?
I never said altitude to begin with, and I have 5 tech trees completed, so yes.
Well gaijin needs prov all f104 had that flare pod but has the other person already states giving aim9L to a plane without counter measures is just asking for even more problems it’s not a positive balance change becouse the br will go up
Is it just me or is that article a bunch of crap?
Not because of the Special flare system
But the line
Allowed the f104j to compete with the likes F4 ej Phantom 2 and f15j Eagle
Unless the f15j Eagle is some mig23s equivalent (mig23 with mig21smt technology)
I don’t see how an f104 would even get close to a F15 even with year 2010 tech Without major redesigns like a much stronger 3 dimensional Trust Vector Engine
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I’d take 10.7 flareless F-1 with Sidewinder L if it means I can headon with missile even if it’s just twice, right now the biggest problem of the F-1 is that the BR are too similar to SMT without SMT benefits.
After all, it’s their historical loadout, why don’t just give it that? afraid? just uptier it, it doesn’t matter at this point.
The very least they can do is either move RL-4 or JLAU-3 launcher to the bomb area, make the missile only upgrade missile, that would at least makes it more bearable.
They could just give the F1 its flarepod and leave it at 10.3. It doesn’t have the flight performance to sit above 10.3 really, actually 10.3 is already a stretch since it’s pretty much identical (slightly worse) to the T2 which sits at 9.7.
Indeed also being in the missile meta with mig23 and f14 F4 without cm sounds like suicide with r60m , aim9L and son to be r73 flying around everywhere
So for that to be forwarded as a suggestion you would need a second source and more than likely a picture showing the CM’s being mounted there.
Where’s F5C flare source then?
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It has already explained multiple times by Smin that it’s due to it being a renamed F-5A which can equip flares.
That’s not a source… lots of planes can equip flares, doesn’t mean they actually had those equipped. It’s very unlikely they added flares during the deployment of the F5C in 1965 and there is no source at all anywhere that it actually carried flares. Cough up an actual source?
This has already been passed to developers. Note that it was for the AN/ALE-41K CM pod, which only carries chaff, not flares. There are no solid evidences that the F-1 used any of the flare capable pods during its lifetime.
With all the inaccuracies on plane loadouts or performance, who actually cares? Why put a plane at 10.3 which is absolutely useless… you be seriously better off flying the Nesher at 10.3 than a F-1.
Smin is a CM which means the answers he gives come from the devs. Additionally it is known that F-5C never carried flares in real life. The reason it gets them in game is do to it being a renamed 5A which can be retrofitted with flares. As for F-1 we have documentation that stats it can’t equip CM’s. A user by the name of David Bowie was able to get declassified documents from the Japanese Government that listed what the F-1 could be equipped with and CM’s wasn’t on the list.
No, that does not. Smin isn’t a Gaijin employee or FM dev.
Still not a source that the renamed F-5A carried any flares during its deployment in 1965. There is no mention of any CM anywhere in any of the documents. Should we just go retrofit everything because some model at some point during it’s lifecycle had some piece of technology added to extend its service life, or should we actually go by what they carried during the time on which the model in WT is based?
Addition of flares to the F-5C is a conscious choice made by Gaijin that has no basis whatsoever in reality so that they can sell a nice premium plane. And yes this is a decision they did because without CM it would be pretty useless and its performance means they can’t just lower its BR either. So it would just sit there and nobody would buy/fly it.
Since you have no source outside of “Smin said!” there’s no point to discuss.
Smin is a Gaijin employee. They’re documents and pictures showing the F-5A can be fitted with flares which is why the F-5C got them.
At which year? Skoshii Tiger only existed for a short period amount of time in Vietnam, it never saw anything beyond that 1965 period. with this very logic then Taiwanese and Japanese f104 should also get flares because German and Italian has flares.
The manufacturer of the countermeasure system.
Which is why those countermeasures are on F-104G/S as well.
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Flares can be considered when there is clear evidence a modification of a vehicle can be equipped with them. For the F-5C, we know that the F-5A series can be retrofitted with countermeasure pods easily. The F-5C is an F-5A with some known modifications, so the developers decided on this:
The F-104J however is a modification unique to Japan. We don’t have any information that its possible to mount the same pod as the Chinese/German/Italian F-104G and the only other record of the F-104J having any form of countermeasures was some loosely packed as a one time use option into the airbrake. Its not possible to model such a function in game. So the F-104J has no countermeasures. As always, we welcome any contrary information for consideration.
I have been a Gaijin employee for 8 years now. All of my answers come from the developers.
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You sure? you guys implemented “Landing gear blocked” and “Main gun blocked” feature very nicely on Kikka with RATO and P-61 with landing gear out respectively alike, surely this would work similarly with 104J flares if you guys wanted to be historical, block flare deployment if airbrake isn’t deployed should use the same code like Kikka RATO or P-61 main gun blockage right? At least compromise with 10.0 BR or remove XT-2 since it’s just a prototype, keep F-1 as is but remove the prototype model, don’t inflate the grind?
Adding that feature to a one-time use flare that won’t be on any other aircraft is worse than just having it at 10.3 IMO.