a10 is completely untouchable to that thing btw
Also the Oplot from 7.1 to 6.0
And then we also received an Abrams so China now has a mbts with 5s reload time lol
Congratulations.
Has no issue swatting a Jaguar GR1A out the sky at 20k ft
flying straight ahead might be the problem
doesnt help that the jag sucks ass
really? you getting downed in a jag by the 2S6?
I dont, I drop and turn, still kills me.
That thing is easily onpar with the ADATS at 11.7.
meanwhile Stormer HVM cant even match the range of a KH-29 volley from a Mig-27,
Yup. 20-25k ft, flying as fast as I can and turning away after releasing the bomb. 2S6 still hits me. Though Jaguar GR1A has been unusable for 5 months due to Mk13s not working anymore.
Meanwhile. KH-29s seem to have gotten the ability to track through smoke and can be fired at like 10km at a specific target which it starts tracking, which massively outranges the Stormer HVM. GSB is just stupidly balanced these days. But AJ168s have like a 4km lock range, beyond that, they just target a fixed point. Its stupid. and thats if they dont just get instantly shot out the sky by MG fire
i have no words
Then drop the ADATS down in BR to 10.7. Finally give us something more reliable than the Stormer HVM
I dont get how the 2S6 isnt 11.0+ Its got a good gun, great missile, good radar
yeah right
drop the stormer to 8.3 while at it
Never have my KH29S done that, without a clear nice view they barely hit past 11km.
The Kh29S do the exact same mate, get a generic lock point.
Mines works fine, just went back to the playstyle of dropping bombs on top of em down the way and pulling up and out.
Dunno how ur getting taken out by the 2S6 in a jag, the strela I can understand, or OSA at least but 2S6?
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in my experience they cant even lock properly at like 6 km
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I did several tokens just in GSB farming the Mig-27 spam, as most are idiots, but the smart ones routinely fired before I could even get IRST lock, which is about 9-10km.
Not in my experience. AJ168s just never ever lock onto a specific target, even when fired relatively close. I had a KH-29 fired from beyond my IRST range track me whilst I was driving flat out in the Stormer HVM the other day. How the hell does that work?
That doesnt work for me, at least in GSB, and even then, I tried that in GRB, the Mk13 still bugged out and missed by a couple of miles.
2S6 puts both to shame imo, though both should also get a BR increase to 11.0. Iv’e had it in both the Jaguar GR1A and AMX A-1A. 20-25k ft, turning after dropping hte bomb, even dropping a few CMs, still tracks perfectly. There is no reason for the 2S6 to only be 0.3 higher than vastly inferior SPAA like the Stormer HVM or IR slingers like the Antelope
Cause it, same as adats stats show it’s performance relevant to its BR, the 2S6 missiles you can easily dodge without issue.
even @MotorolaCRO can tell you that, we may of been bickering over which top tier MBT is slightly better but the statement of the adats needs to come dwon to 10.7 is wild af
Hes an idiot and just insults people when hes wrong, its kind funny but i’ve got him blocked.
Not in my general experience. There is no way to kinematically defeat them in any aircraft below 11.0. Only maybe flying at 30k+ ft, but getting up there in a ladden Jaguar takes ages
I might try it in a Harrier II, but even then… I would fly defensively.
2S6 should be at least 11.0, if not 11.3. There is no changing my mind on that, it does not belong 0.3 higher than VASTLY inferior SPAA. Strela and OSA also belong 0.3 Higher
Oh and anyone saying it cant defend itself. Ive seen 2S6 kill MBTs quite readily before, which is apparently an excuse for the ADATS to 11.7 because it can kill MBTs
They can if you get it right but it’s definitely tempramental af
Read what I said. The stormer has what a 8KM IRST range?
The KH29 can be fired on a nice clear day in some cases up to 10km away. sometimes it’s not something it’ll do on the regular.
As well as that you can get a general lock on a target and set the missile to land at a certain area within it, I do it with mavs at post 6km launches all the time.
The only time I’ve seen them miss so dramatically is if you break lock.
Other than that they tend to get at least near where I drop em, even now when it’s bugged
key wording, in your opinion.
Statistically speaking it’s worse than an OSA
If you are at that altitude popping only a couple CM’s to stop it then ofc it’ll hit you, that’s like crying the pantsir will hit you at 18km if you don’t change direction.
I love coming across 2S6 in the super etendard, as the AS30s out range it completely, same as OSA and strela.
It’s not an 11.0 worthy SPAA at all.
9km on a good day. Starstreaks have an effective range against fixed wing of about 5-6km. I routinely see Mig-27s firing off their KH-29s before ive even gotten IRST lock, so they must be firing at atleast 8km. Deploying smoke and moving provides no defence
Right, and in my experience, AJ168 never locks onto a moving target. Fired a volley at about 4-5km earlier today, not a single one tracked.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/zQnQiLTckFCC
This hasnt been fixed yet. 90% of GBUs just randomly turn away from the target at the moment>
So, 20k ft, I drop a Mk13, I drop some CMs whilst turning about 60 degrees to keep the target in the TIALD FoR, and drop about 1k ft of alt to regain speed lost in the turn before starting to climb slowly back up and the 2S6 missile hits me a few seconds later.
What should I have done differently?
I wish all nations got equal weapons then. Beacuse Britain doesn’t AJ168s dont work from what you are describing, and probably would just get shot out the sky as seems to happen 99.99% of the time recently, even by MBTs with roof mounted LMGs.
Ive seen them routinely fired at 8km+ (based upon them firing before I can even get IRST lock, let alone in range to fire a Starstreak) at moving targets and they seem to have no issue hitting. combine with the IOG and large warhead, there is little you can do about it other than hide behind a building and hope. Deploying skmoke doesnt stop them either in my experience. Tried dropping smoke and moving away but it either went straight through the warhead killed me from a 10m away or it tracked through the smoke
hawk gets mavericks which are 10 times better than the shitty ““AGM”” that is AJ168
like… is there a point in using them? they are slow, smoky and very easy to intercept
Ive not grinded the Hawk yet, but given at the same BR you have A-10As with 6x AGM-65Ds, I dont really see how 4x AGM-65Bs can be considered good for the BR either. They should swap the Bs out for Ds or Gs
Im using them because I would usually use Jaguar GR1A with Mk13s, but the Mk13s dont work currently. So its either that or unguided bombs, but they seem to have nerfed unguided bombs recently too. They seem to do half the damage they use to. Ive had a number of near direct hits with 1000lb in the Buc S1 and ive maybe taken out a track. Switch to dropping 4 bombs per target, rather than my normal 2, which is really annoying