they are perfectly suitable for that BR range, its just that the
are incredibly LOW in BR, americans really do get insanely handheld with their CAS
Maybe its the LGBs then, because anything with Mavs and Tunguska becomes annoyance at best, if the player knows he can swat mavs out of the sky. And tunguska is very good at swatting mavs out of sky.
Still it sits tad bit low for my liking considering its kit is lit better than some of its BR contemporaries.
Yup. its easily 11.0 worthy, if not maybe 11.3.
Fighting it in 9.7/10.0 stuff is just dumb
I dont know why people defend under BRed soviet stuff so much
Because they might not be under-BR’d in the first place ?
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That is impossible lol, they lose lock if you smoke.
Again 8km on a fixed location likely at your general direction.
As well as that decent weather gives them okay range.
i fire mavs at 8km ish as well.
Them Im working on getting so wont comment rn .
Yeah I know, but mines don’t miss by literal miles is my point.
Hence Why I say drop em basically out a dive onto the enemy.
Don’t fly as high, keep it in an alt the missile struggles, the higher u go the easier it’ll fly.
as well as that try to manuevere in a sort of snake shape, not just pull one angle.
Not in my experience. They seem to keep going just fine
Again, definetly seen them quite happily tacking moving targets fired from that range.
I tried that, once, got instantly shot out the sky.
Ive tried lower alts too, doesnt work either, 2S6 still intercepts just as easily. if anything its even easier as it has more energy
So stall myself?
It’s literally a game mechanic that they lose lock mate they don’t have teh capability to relock after it. They’ll lose smoke and crash into the ground near the target if they do smoke.
I’m not saying they can’t, but I am saying that it’s not usual for them to pick up the specific target n launch, usually you’ll get a general target with them.
And that’s speaking from using them extensively.
I mean you seem to be struggling as is?
The missile if you are at 20K feet will be far harder to dodge than if you maintain a solid altitude between 2 and 4KM and use the dive downs to gain energy etc.
How are you stalling doing an S manuevere in a GR1A?
Then their massive warheads mean they can kill light tanks from quite a distance, because I’ll see them fire, I’ll drop smoke and reverse and still get hit
Then I have no idea what is going in GSB at the moment, because in the bracket below top tier, you have 4-6 Mig-27s most games, they all fire at 7-9km quite comfortably and always hit something. At this point, I really dont understand why the early Tornado IDS (GR1, ASSTA1, 1995) arent in that bracket and instead have to face off against Buk M3s
I dont see what else you can do with the currently broken state.
You cant drop from height nor can you loft because the bombs will always miss, if you try to dive onto teh target, you will be killed by something. So Ive removed the Jaguar GR1A from my lineup at the moment. I dont have the Hawk 200 yet, Buc S2B is useless.
Which is a real shame, because CAS mgiht have actually allowed bluefor nations to counter the BMPToxic, but nope. Not allowed unfortunately.
Stall might be an exergation, but you are only oding about 500kts at that alt and each turn bleeds 50-100kts easily. Is it not better to be going fast in a straight line perpindicular to the SAM than to be weaving all over the place, bleeding speed, barely able to maintain the TIALD on target? Especially bare in mind im usually also talking about from GSB and not GRB perspective too, which makes control managing all this way fiddlier
most of the lower BR T-72s and T-80s are super mid and have no need to move up lmao. Only one is the the T-80UD and for that 10.7 is already more than enough.
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the T64A is pretty potent at 9.3 with that 6 second reload tbh
You can generally peel out and keep it in the TIALD range as well.
though on GSB it’s completely different, one would automatically assume GRB, which is far easier due to the 3rd person capabilities.
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Yeah I agree that the T-64A, T-64B and T-80UD might need to move up. However the T-80B and most T-72s don’t need a move at all.
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MBT-70 and the like are pretty much immune to ATGMs / heat rounds. Even using a bmp2m’s ATGMs, (since someone brought it to top tier for some odd reason… the MBT 70 I mean) he ate 2 ATGMs suffering no damage before I just auto cannoned his gun and track. The hull don’t really cause any damage to the crew most of the time when shot.
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T-80UD could be 10.7 now sure. Saying all the T-64s need to get nuked is insane. Given the Leo 1a1 is still 9.0? I get it has crap survivability but mobility wise it’s quite and rides at a decent speed, while having a rather good gun and thermals. They need to move the T-72B down to 10.0, so the T64B has more than just itself at 10.0, and I see no reason why any other T-80s should move… it’s not like they increased drastically in performance…
and t64A rarely survives a hit from anything, T64B did, but since it’s now 10.0 I’m sure it’s not all that grand. Typically you don’t buff something and move it up in br at the same time… which negates why it was buffed to begin with… but hey, Russian bias exists -
We still have a couple odd under br’d abrams at 11.3 and 11.7 when they should be 12.0 or both 11.7
thats not the one with
you are thinking about 1a5, which is 9.3
MBT-70 ate two Kornets.
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The Leopard a1a1 is 9.0 and has thermals and a rangefinder… I own it.
No no, your right, I was thinking the L/44 my bad
@pooqich
Also, it’s still a 9.0 while T-64A is 9.3?
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the BMP2M ATGMS scythe through it’s hull and the front of the turret, no part of the MBT 70 is safe from a non gaijined missile.
It’s a good tank, heat it will reliably stop, as well as that the spaced armour seems to work okay on APDS as well.
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1 I’ve been saying the T80UD could of been 10.7 before it’s reload got a buff, in which case I was right, I even got the thing just to test it out months ago and it’s become not only one of my favourite tanks, but one of my best earners for how much I’ve played it, only 90 something battles, it got me the T72B3A (or whatever that new one is, I dunno as I hate the T72s at higher BRs), as well as the T90M within just 90 battles.
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secondly I don’t want to see the T64s nuked? who said that? , I just know that the T64A right now with a six second reload is overtuned for the BR, not many 9.3s get the luxury of a six second reload, especially not those with a pretty solid dart in the 3BM22.
So the leo1A1 at 9.0 is pretty poor TBH, a comparable leopard at 9.3 is the premium Leopard 1A1 L/44 as it has a 120MM cannon, DM13, thermals and laser range finder, Although no armour, no survivability, worse mobility and ofc a slower reload.
T72B would be too strong seeing 9.0s as it’s composite array is pretty damn potent, as well as access to 3bm42 gives it a distinct advantage.
I personally believe the T64B though is a better at 10.3 than they are so yeah maybe it could drop down, due to both the optics and the reload.
Oh it is fantastic mate, I took it out and went 12 kills to no deaths xD
They really do buff stuff and move it up at the same time, a lot.
Never mentioned Russian bias, nor intend to.
Though RN 10.7 is wild af due to the terminator.
what 11.3 abrams is under BR’d ?
The M1A1 is fine at 11.7 now as it does perfectly well there, it’s armour on teh turret is no where near as good as the likes of the M1A1 HC which has been up armoured.
The M1A2 and HC though could be 12.3 easily, as the leopard 2a5 sits above them and is worse or on par.
Also the leopard 1A1 does not have thermals.
the premium 9,3 and 1A5 do
i was wondering what got changed lol.
knew it!