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There are or at least was, old forum posts concering the leclerc it has the capabilities to at least fire 12 shots a minute at 5 second reloads under operator command. Im assuming though it’s used sparingly to prevent wear n tear, as well as the doctrine is to fire at 10 second intervals when on the move.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/R0xYIxujmb8M
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Just linked u a bug report with multiple sources enough to make gaijin forward to the damn devs.
over 10 sources and even videos to show the reload can be 5 seconds under situations that require it.
Much the same as the type 10 can fire extremely quickly if needed as well.
i mean mate it’s the front cover, theres literally janes artillery and armour in there which aresome of the most credible sources you can find.
So pop off
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i quote 4 primary and good second sources. In report just pile bad magazines.
the rport is there for others to check, the first images are janes and such, stop ignoring evidence just because you are choosing to ignore it.
The part that annoys me the most is how posts like this are used. There is a sort of “just trust me bro” element to them in regards to what documentation is applied, how its applied, and in most cases, its not fair or balanced. When it comes to Russian or Soviet vehicles, its almost always to put their vehicles in favorable positions that seem questionable. But when it comes to Western or NATO vehicles, its to apply a nerf or deny them getting an improvment they should get.
Two great examples of this are the DU armor for the Abrams (and subsequently the M829A3) and the capability of Western MANPADS vs Soviet ones (I am sure there are folks here who can point to other examples, these are just the two I am nost familiar with). And to get any change or revisions to their stance, the community managers effectively always come back with something to the tune of “Well just forward us what is basically classified documents. But just an FYI, we will permanently ban you if you do”.
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janes isn’t even a source. They’re being removed from the report.
I’ll repeat myself: I attached the official brochure above. That report included obscure magazines, including some unrelated to military equipment (a Russian magazine on plastic vehicle models).
I attached the official brochure and two books from recognized tank researchers and developers, Leclerc. Amateur magazines are nothing compared to them
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/VXbZ2I3Oaato
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Yeah send those classified documents to me instead. I can be trusted and will put in a good word for you with the CI- I mean Gaijin. Ahem
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Then make a bug report and nerf the leclerc?
The other magazines are not inaccurate at all as far as I’ve seen for leclerc in my entire life alive lol.
Already
Then why are you here on a russian T series thread about it? Also why are you tryin so hard to get the leclerc nerfed lol?
It’s not gonna go down in BR.
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First of all, this is not my report, in case you haven’t noticed.
I responded to you and another person because you started telling tall tales about how the Leclerc’s reload is worse than it could be.
That’s not true; it’s better than it should be, based on the primary sources.
As far as i can see GIAT state it can fore 12 rpm.
On top of this would a direct source from them as Godvana has claimed to have not he classified ?
Almost every single source out there states
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standard non emergency fire rate is 10 rpm
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faster loaded rate as per input of operator 12 rpm
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on the move reduced to 6 rpm to prevent machine damage.
EDIT: yes said document aka from GIAT as a manufactor statement would in fact be classified.
Literally if you take the name Godvana has used, and google it or throw it into chatGPT and tell ti to site sources which include this E.G from GIAT
it’ll tell you either 12RPM for when in combat or 10 RPM for out of combat.
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Gonna say lastly. you completely ignored the actual source material on the side which some of which is very credible. It’s not “just bad magazines” but again pop off.
Dude pls… stop it.
Take a look on the Source itself from Stona:
Doesnt found everything but what i found:
- Т-64А. Танк 64А. Техническое описание и инструкция по эксплуатации. Книга 1 (1973)
Page 24
Best possible reload 7,1 worst 19,5, depends on carousel position
- Танки Т-64Б и Т64Б1. ТО и ИЭ. Книга 2 (1983)
Page 15
same as above
no surprise, same loader
- Танк Т-80Б. Техническое описание и инструкция по эксплуатации (1984) книга 2
Page 16
Same again, still same Auto Loader
- Изделие-478Б. Техническое-описание и инструкция по эксплуатации. Часть первая. 1985
nothing found
- Вестник бронетанковой техники, 1973, №4 Канд. техн. наук Г. Г. ГОЛУБ, О. А. ДОБИСОВ, Е. И. ЗАТРАВИН, В. И. КРЕЧЕТОВ
https://btvt.info/5library/vbtt_1973_04_SUO.htm
its a bit weird, theres no specific named Tank. But talking about 6-7 sek´reload.
- Устройство и эксплуатация бронетанкового вооружения часть 1 (2014)
That a pretty interresting part:
Page 18
8 Sek for reload if carousel need to drive 2 slots.
Page 159
8 sek for 2 slot.
7 sek if carousel doesnt need to move. But that usually dont happen.
- Теория и конструкция танка в десяти томах под редакцией доктора технических наук профессора П.П. Исакова, Том 2 Москва, Машиностроение, 1982
Doesnt find anything
- Устройство танка Т-72Б. Учебное пособие. Минск 2011г
Its the same as above, and the same i postet before.
What does that even mean right now? Gaijin is spinning it — how is this supposed to justify buffing Russian tanks?
No
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