so wht not the WZ 1001? It just another ZTZ-99A
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Bwahahahahahhahahahha.
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Time to give leopards 5 sec reload, like every other top tier manually loaded tank?
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Surely you will disable the auto-destabilization of APFSDS by relict and contact-5 as compensation, right?
Surely you will make the autoloader-module create spall, right?
Surely you will add the basket the crew sits in, right?
Surely you will make the trunnions not have 150mm - up to 300mm CHA effective, right?
Surely you will make the trunnions create spall, right?
Surely you will remove the hidden plate infront of the breech that eats all spall, right?
Surely you will remove the hidden 2mm plate around the T-64 and T-80s autoloader, right?
Surely you will make the armour around the autoloader (T- 64, 80, 72, 90) create spall, right?
Surely you will compensate by removing a few of the artificial survivability buffs listed above, right?
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1 mil SL is basically nothing by the time you are at that BR lol
rebalance NATO reload times especially leopard2s
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I believe it’s because the WZ1001 was an earlier ZTZ-99 prototype, like the ZTZ-99-II and 99-III, neither of which were buffed to 6.7 seconds either.
Okay but when are 105s getting reload buffs then? 6.7s is a bit much for a 105, esp at 10.0
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Type 10: 4 seconds.
Abrams: 5.3.
Merkava Mk4: 5.3.
Ariete: 5.3.
France: 5.
Only Challenger 2s lack reload with 4 rounds of first stage instead of >10 [I forget the specific number], Leopard 2s, Merkava Mk3s, and Challenger 3TD.
And I get expert crews primarily for the mobility boost.
Also @mi444ch , as @Jεcka said, to bring Leopard 2s in-line with others.
Right now with expert crew Leopard 2s are 6.4 seconds.
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bearly buffed the chinese so they are still the worst at toptier
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Ah, these are lovely news, and a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
This will make these tanks more enjoyable and competitive while remaining realistic.
Can’t wait to play more with them now! I had not played with them in some time because the extremely slow reloads made them frustrating to play.
I just hope this comes with other rate of fire related fixes, such as Challenger 2 series’ first-order stage rack replenishment speed and size. Speed shouldn’t be twice as slow as everyone else’s, and size should cover the racks at the back of the turret and not be just 3.
Challenger 3 (TD) should also get a 5 second reload, like each and every single other Challenger tank. I understand the Leopard 2s retaining the 6 second speed as they are the very best tanks… but CR3TD is FAR from being remotely close to any Leopard.
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Where is Khalid and MBT2000? No change?
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20-26. Basically every round in the turret should be ready rack
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ojFgCJ6Jnos4
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/nzUoCC2yxJx5
and the 4 rounds at the side that are used as the current ready rack dont even exist on the TES/OES
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/qZAtZXFlUseB
It is also the Challenger 1/ FV4030/3
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/m22cZZxaNPXJ
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Surely they will fix the HSTV-L reload. They are on top of that just like how they are on top of inaccurate western MBTs
Time to improve/fix the armor on several NATO tank series, its not even a suggestion.
This was absolutely unnecessary. Eastern tanks have an active playstyle relying on a stable reload time regardless of crew leveling and tricky armor protection due to volumetrics. The result now is, now not only NATO tanks have to be base grinded to outperform them, you must ace your crews to properly outperform an autoloader, surely carrying a round that could very likely penetrate nearly any NATO upper glacis.
And it’s not that either Russia or China were underperforming on winning rates anyways. Unnecessary, that’s the word.
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SURELY the br changes would soon follow those huge buffs?
right))
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Now, since every other top or high tier mbt got a reload buff is it possible to adress issue with Leopard 2 series and Challenger 3 TD?
They are still stuck with 6.0 aced, meanwhile any other vehicle above 12.0 got a buff.
Also maybe it’s finally time to revisit accepted long ago reports for CR1 and CR2 about ready-rack size ?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ojFgCJ6Jnos4
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/m22cZZxaNPXJ
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HSTV-L reload has already been fixed though
I can’t lie I find the Leopards just annoying to play
Half the time the armour is just broken and overlapped or some module is actually 5 yards outside the tank and any hit is basically just death but instead you’re sat there waiting for the relief of death instead of spawning again
Adding onto that you can’t look left or right so on open maps you have to physically turn the hull before you can shoot
It’s just not fun
That and gaijin made up stuff about blow out panels for some reason
Plus they have the slowest reload speed of top tier besides very high crew/aced
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