I’m pretty sure it’s still under performing. The RDF/LT might as well but I’m not well versed in that vehicles
Very nice!
is this assuming their at their maximum performance? so why wont the type’s and tkx get their reload based on maximum performance too instead of the 4 seconds.
The point is that they believe any russian source but dont add shit even when the faster leo reload is unclassified.
or Leclerc’s at 5 seconds at maximum performance but sits at 6 due to autoloader malfunction problems
arent all leclercs at 5 seconds, or am I missing something?
Funny how its Thai too, and we don’t have a Thai VT-4
It’s 1.5 seconds, which is one of the intended reload rates for the platform.
It’s also the fastest at 12.0.
@Focking_Wulf_190
They already know the Leopard 2s can reload faster. They already accepted those NATO documents.
Reloads, especially for manual loaders, is a balance.
As long as the reload isn’t faster than possible, it’s realistic.
It’s just a matter of lobbying for a reload that’s slower than peak, but faster than current.
Which is what 5 seconds in Leopard 2 does.
It’s slower than the peak of 3.8, and faster than what it is currently.
I have a question, though;
Shouldn’t WZ1001 have the same rate of fire as ZTZ99A? Isn’t it the same autoloader?
The ZTZ99s and VT4 absolutely needed something.
To imply that the Leo 2s need a buff more than these tanks is a bit of a joke.
stand corrected, yeah im thinking of something else then
As far as I know they’re both using the final specified reload-rates currently;
0.875s for RDF/LT and 1.0s for HSTV-L (the latter had higher fire rates tested but issues with the FCS limited it to the final RoF of 1.0s)
After all, that is the reason for changing the doctrine to 3 crew members and not needing a charger for the Leclerc/Type 90/10 and Chinese/Russian tanks
Yeah, I don’t know what’s going on here.
The Leopards are the very best combination of firepower, mobility, handling dynamics, protection and survivability in the entire game.
People talk about improving their reload “to bring them in-line with everybody else”… when they are better than everybody else in EVERY way except rate of fire xD
RIP Leo2s, we had a good run.
The absolute least you could do is fix other tanks issues with ready racks and reload rates as well.
Let’s start with the challenger 2 - the current ready rack is factually wrong and there are outstanding bug reports.
I also find the selective realism interesting. Reload rates have always been used as a balancing factor but they’re suddenly not? If this is a new thing, then we can expect reload rate fixes for ships and various tanks, right? We wouldn’t want a double standard after all.
This should also include the premium ZTZ96A (p), right?
What the hell Gaijin? Where did your usual “reload speed is a balancing factor” go?

I guess gaijin take it more like older ZTZ-99 as it’s a prototype partly based on old ZTZ-99.
but now, what I was worrying about when Abrams is buffed is happening, a unlimited buff of loading times
next time Leos? and we are running into a future of brain storm game
VT-4 needed it, since the base VT-4 is a higher BR than the M1A2