feel like the autoloader is the least of the S tanks issues with how awful that things controls were translated over…
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Not at all im afraid. We are happy to investigate any reasonable sourced (secondary included in that) report as we did with the Leclerc, which was implemented.
So its not a “lazy gotcha” at all, but the well established standard for autoloaders that we have.
Again, not at all. Manual reloads have a plethora of variables that come into play. Crew training and expertise, crew fatigue, combat situation and condition, stress and damage, shell positions, human error. Many sources can claim a great range of values and the tanks themselves can be subject to massive variables in game too.
Autoloader mechanisms are simply a fixed item. Those that have any variables would be investigated and factored in also.
Either way, this is not something new thats changed today, nor was any standard changed or introduced today. This is a longstanding matter that has always been this way.
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Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember reading that Russian tanks would have to center their cannons to be reloaded?
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Nope. There is an open report on this, that requires further investigation.
what is the function of a “expert” or “aced” crew other than to be a perfect non error making representation of what the vehicle could be made to do then?
Ive worked with enough machines and electronics to know that they are just as inconsistent and unreliable as if the action was completed by a flesh based operator. We dont see the imperfections of machines being taken into account at all. Nor are we seeing the soviet build quality playing a factor ever in this game.
this i agree on.
this double standard has been around for years and is going to keep causing these issues until there is fair changes for all nations kit.
to be fair no tank in game has its “gun salute” modelled…
most tanks as far back as the mk2 centurion of 1945 had precautions to either stop the guns elevation and turret or to move the breech into an easier position for the loader (mechanical or human) to do their job.
Id like to see it be implemented, not just as it punished worse elevation speeds but as it would make each shot count more.
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Most modern tanks do this, including Leopard and Challenger too. Their gun raises for reload assistance and then is automatically returned to its previous position. Hence why we don’t model this for any tank in game.
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That would be interesting to see in game.
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Thanks for the videos.
You misunderstood, its not simply the “ace” skill of the crew, but what spesific conditions the source value was recorded in and how that translates. That variable is massive, including but not limited too all the above mentioned. Even the best “ace” crew cant achieve a sustained peak value that they could in a peaceful training ground for example.
This is a very slippery slope if we want to factor in mechanical unreliability into the mix. As this would not be limited to just autoloaders. Hence why we have a simply flat standard for autoloading systems.
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would also help figure out who is reloading to target. would add more depth to this game instead of braindead point and click with an overpowered spamcanon
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Using Thai documents for the VT4… Where is the Thai VT4? I’m glad reload times are now more accurate, but seriously…
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Certain part of the community cried hard enough mainly about it being too close to a certain date.
Any news on the Oplot’s hull front armor? It’s in pretty bad shape.
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I am aware but considering they just got the Abrams this is beyond stupid.
New reload rates A+
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It’s not a matter of race it’s a matter of who sells weapons to who. Can you imagine most trees without German or Russian hardware?
The new reload rates may need some fine tuning, but they are great!
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i guess if autloaders are such a fixed value every t64 and t80 ever recorded loading must’ve been either broken or loading the furthest shell possible cause a 6 second reload time has never been seen.
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Something something ideal conditions something something
i know you’re ironic but there are people genuinely saying this, despite both the t64 and t80 behind some of the most document tanks in the world.
good lord imagine a war thunder if only vehicles that were using 100% native tech could appear in a tree.
That would leave only the USSR and britain after ww2 for tanks and britain and america for cold war planes
At least my home nation would be meta as there wouldnt be any other choice for 60% of the game.
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Exactly. It would be pathetic.
Most trees would be so silly looking.
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