Revised poll on CAS in Ground Battles, would you play a tank only mode?

No, I won’t because your chasing me on this is in bad faith and just being aggressive in your pursuance of submission.

This is why I said you need a chain.

What’s the point of spawning a vehicle that isn’t effective against what it was made to kill (planes), and that isn’t effective against ground vehicles?

The thing is, they just aren’t. Anyone with awareness can dodge SPAA in a plane. It is very easy to out range SPAA, and very easy to kill SPAA.

I want SPAA to be a real threat to aircraft, both as a CAS user and tank player.

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You are just proving what I have said. If You weren’'t arguing in bad faith and You did something regularly then there would be no problem in providing one single server replay.

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It is effective, you’re just not seeing it being effective because you feel it’s not in your experience, or usage.

Inexperienced maybe, but as I alluded to prior, I got someone to the point where they did this ‘Planes are easy’ and spawned a plane, ended up out of SP because I shot them down, and they were sitting on the spawn screen HOPING to get back in…

I’m not giving you anything, because no matter what it won’t match your expectations and you’ll just dismiss it as you have every time…

But the second I say to someone to actually use SPAA, you’re all up in my grill… How typical…

Because You have nothing.

SPAA are not effective, even more people are telling You this and Your own stats prove that.

Using the air is just much better.

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Costs more, and you risk more… You die in that plane without a return and you could’ve spawned 3 SPAA without trouble…

That’s how dumb your elitist stance is.

I have tried playing SPAA, and I have had moderate success. It is difficult to learn, and not easy to use. CAS is so much easier to use and learn compared to SPAA. It has so many features that trivialize it, such as 3rd person, and mouse aim.

I want SPAA to be made much better, so that the average player has a chance against an aircraft. This can be achieved by moving all SPAA down in BR, or by giving them buffs such as the ability to lock targets.

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If You fail to get any SP while flying a plane then You wouldn’t be able to do the same on the ground.

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You should come jam, honestly… You and @Oldie-SE should… ULQ is just too far gone to even try anything beneath them…

I was talking about the situation with CAS from my side and I thought this thread was about that.
How to win is a completely different matter. But to pigeonhole me into thinking that kills are enough to win is not fair and does not do justice to my ‘success rate’ in the game. I think I have understood how to win in the game and what you have to contribute in which situations depending on which vehicle you are travelling in.
Quick example: You rarely see it, but I can also scout with an aircraft. A short machine gun salvo on an enemy makes him pop up briefly on the map. I use it to show enemies in the vicinity of allies so that they can react accordingly.

So let me summarise briefly. To fight enemy aircraft in good time before they become a threat to your own team, you should use a fighter aircraft.
If there are a lot of planes in the sky without air support, it’s better to use a mobile SPAA and take short shots at targets and then move to a new position.

And by the way, ULQ hasn’t ‘led’ me anywhere. He’s been on my ignore list for months because no meaningful discussion is ever had. Where did you even get the idea?

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Then you should come have a look at it from my side rather than making the same leaning to that nothing can work unless it gets those numbers…

Ok … At this point I’m beginning to think that you don’t understand what I’m writing and don’t want to.
I never said that SPAA does not work … I never said that you have to show certain ‘numbers’.
Make sure you check your reading comprehension. That’s terrible how you’re twisting things around here.

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There’s no twisting at all… I want to show you how capable SPAA can be if used correctly…

That’s how simple it is, and you draw into question my reading comprehension as a veiled insult.

Wonderful…

I’m just telling you that SPAA have their limitations that you don’t have with a fighter aircraft. (fighter aircraft have their own limitations … just mentioning)
This has nothing to do with SPAA not being good. I use them regularly myself.

Do you actually squad though, and work together?

That’s another of my finer points.

No … not a single game.

See, c’mon now… I commonly advocate teamwork and squads when others proclaim there isn’t…

I commonly mention the idea that SPAA aren’t as ineffective as people claim, no matter the stats they asspull…

All of these things and I play the game for fun compared to grinding and being pummeled.

What does this have to do with whether and when a SPAA is used?

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Everything? lol… It even goes fuirther in playing the game, it’s all about the mindset.