Revised poll on CAS in Ground Battles, would you play a tank only mode?

ngl this poll is pretty useless. The majority of players in WT forums don’t use CAS, thus they have 0 idea what they’re talking about and just scream “NERF CAS!!!”

It would be too much work by Gajin for such a small playerbase to actually play it.

Probably because CAS is currently too strong, and that SPAA is too weak. People have arguments for it too.

It just isn’t a very balanced mechanic.

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People aren’t spawning SPAA as much as they should because they think it’s not worth it, then complain that they die to the air.

That’s the issue with the continued ‘I tried once, and failed so it’s pointless’ because many of the attempts are dismally poor…

No, it is common that the SPAA is underpowered against any ok pilot. There are also huge SPAA gaps in several trees, which limit options, or remove any sort of competetive SPAA.

I see very few people with an attitude like that. The people who have given up, have given up because they either want to play tanks in a primarily tank mode, and that SPAA just isn’t very good at many BRs.

My main complaint about CAS is that you can do very little against it if you aren’t in SPAA. If I first spawn a medium tank, there is often nothing I can do about an aircraft. How am I supposed to defend against a P-47 when I am in a Amx-13?

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Nah, people complain they can’t shoot with things, and often they are making bad mistakes which lead to them and their teammates dying.

I see many with that attitude, and it’s enforced by others saying just to spawn a plane…

I just nailed C4ples, and I’m SURE they were out of SP because they chose to take that plane, and got nailed by my M19 without making a good hit.

I will not dismiss the fact that some people suck at playing SPAA, or suck at WT. My main point is, is that there is currently nothing you can do against a plane if you don’t spawn SPAA. It isn’t a fun experience to die to someone you are incapable of damaging.

I was writing that more from a personal perspective, so I may have made a generalization.

I have given up on playing SPAA because, I don’t enjoy it, I want to play an actual tank, it isn’t very good, and there are often no viable options at BRs I play.

The assumption that you can’t makes for people who won’t and will fail whenever they try bring it out because they’re actively thinking they won’t.

I actively bring out 3 SPAA at times, and use backups, so when people gloat and mock my stats you can understand why I have no care for the stats because I am performing a role… That’s why those individuals like deriding and goading me at every turn.

Too much work - copy pasting current gamemode and not allowing planes to spawn.

As long as You don’t kill the said planes, You are not performing any role.

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Didn’t say that, but thank you for your genuine broken record input…

So please tell me about what stats people ‘gloat and mock’ when they talk about You using SPAA?

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You are the example. Good job at already highlighting your stance.

You mean for pointing out that just spawning SPAA and not being able to destroy enemy aircraft is not going to solve the problem?

Then ye, I will always say that it is better to just spawn an air unit.

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You didn’t point out anything in the slightest, you threw my skill in those vehicles and reduced it to metrics you want it to be.

You’re so fixated on that stance that it’s made you the septic person in this because you keep bringing those ‘numbers’ into it as if they’re the be-all and end-all of stats, WHICH THEY AREN’T.

Each and every time you prove yourself to be adamantly dead set on berating ANY other role or task that ANYONE can perform because they don’t meet you’re ‘expectations’, and the consistency that you roll about and try make engagement, it’s all in bad faith because you are that sort of person.

I have pointed out that You can’t call vechicle effective if it is not performing its role.

The role of anti-air vechicle when it comes to the air problem (people in tanks are having) should be destroying air units. If it can’t do that it is not effective. Trying to say that You can cap or make assists with it would mean that You could still do that with any other tank while still not being able to deal with air problem.

The only thing in bad faith is suggesting people that have problem with the air to use SPAA while not even being able to perform well in them.

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You’ve pointed out nothing other than your fixation on trying to tell me I’m wrong at every step, and using metrics which you refuse there to be any others, as per usual.

@Pacifica Can you step in on this… This is getting beyond a joke already. They can’t actually admit anything other than their precious KDR, and the fact that they jump in saying if I’m not getting planes in them that I’m not doing anything is shaming.

They ignore anything along the lines of intimidation and actual deterrence, or assists, or even repairing, in a SUPPORT role vehicle.

This is the actual problem with engaging with ULQ at all.

You tell people that have problem with air to use SPAA and are angry at people who tell that SPAA are not effective against the air.

I have pointed out multiple times why SPAA is not effective and pointed out that if You are not actually killing the enemy air, You are not performing the anti-air role thus dealing with air problem itself. Your own stats prove that SPAA are not effective in their role and You have failed to provide anything to back up that SPAA are effective in anti-air role.

So it is just amusing to me that You just can’t admit that air is just better with dealing with air than SPAA. Because this is what I’m saying from the beginning.

Because we are talking about anti-air role, while all other things can be done with any other tank. I can’t understand why You fail to grasp that.

We are discussing air problem, not cap/assist/support one.

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Stop trying to make out I said anything more than what I did as all you’re doing is trying to bring up that other instance into this point that was even made…

I was actually saying that people like you saying that they aren’t effective, encourage peopel to not use them even if they have no idea how to use them.

Your assumption that I got no kills is the nature of your fixation, and the shaming portion of this, and it’s about time you had a chain put on.

Thanks for proving my point and leaving out that I always say that it is better to use the air.

There is no assumption as stats prove it.

Not to mention that I haven’t said that You got no kills, what I have said is that SPAA are not effective.

So please spare me the talk of

When You are the one doing it the most.

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I think the problem with creating a seperate game mode for only tanks is it would detract from anyone playing the original realistic GRB and ironically it would detract from the realism, especially for the players who complain about realism but only want tanks in ground battles. I think a great incentive would be to raise rewards for killing air in GRB, and that would greatly reduce the effectiveness of CAS.