That poor poor breech block… :(
Well, you simply can’t, because this game is state-sponsored propaganda.
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They don’t demand classified documents, they demand numbers.
SEP1 & SEP2 got their numbers in a bug report.
Internal armor layout doesn’t matter, nor does the thickness of that armor.
All that matters is how much kinetic protection that adds above previous known numbers and/or the kinetic protection of the armor itself.
@_FurioSS @MS_Phantasm
All you’re proving is Gaijin accepted actual sources for T-90M’s spall liner. The example you provide is a false equivalence fallacy as the comparison isn’t a spall liner report.
It’s funny watching “quirky” people spread disinfo.
There’s more than the photographic evidence from the video which was dismissed as a source, so stop lying.
Sure , same way they got numbers for t90m , and that relic era can stop 200mm of kinetic. Its just estimated values , but when community is asking for estimated values for NATO they ask precise numbers from documents.
When someone asks for the same for russian tanks , its ACKED by default.
Adding spall lines only for t90m is just pure bias , they should add it for all NATO tanks the same moment , or not add it at all.
Not to mention they add mechanics only that suits russians , as regenarative steering is only in nato tanks and it will never get implemented since RU tanks would not benefit from it .
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Even the French MoD has talked about how the US has used DU for its armor and conducted a study on the viability of using it.
Most of the DU France used for the brief period of the OFL 120 F2 was sourced from the US back in 1994.
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Relikt numbers are well known to the entire world due to being declassified.
Gaijin asks for precise numbers from Russian tanks… OH NO! THE HORROR!
Leopard 2s are not T-90Ms, adding them to Leopard 2s is not pure bias.
You are wrong.
@MS_Phantasm
The numbers are what’s necessary for improvement to be made; Game devs can’t fix the problem without them.
It sure hasn’t stopped them from adding the T-80BVM and now the T-90M. The pattern seems to be that they overestimate Russian armor technology but underestimate Western armor systems.
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You are a nice troll , I`m not going to waste more time on you , you are always defending russian bias by silly claims that someone is russian fan boy.
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It should be emphasized that this is a “Russian propaganda simulator”.
I understand that people who have been playing this game for a short time are outraged, but this situation has been happening from the very beginning. They are not particularly interested in outrage or negative opinions, and if they make a “good change” for the public, in the next few steps they will make everyone regret it anyway. This is a business, a business focused on spreading propaganda, based on monetizing the irritation of people who have already wasted their time here and it is simply a pity to abandon it.
But what can you expect from a “band” that kills itself with its own bombs during official streams and presentations?
I wish for myself, you and them that it will last, the propaganda label will stay with them forever, regardless of what they do.
I only feel sorry for the players from Russia who feel great discomfort when everyone laughs at this propaganda masterpiece while playing with them, it’s as if someone was constantly spitting in their face and it’s not their fault…
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how can you even say that?
go into protection analysis and compare armor on T-90M and Strv 122A. its night and day.
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T-90M has ~700mm kinetic protection on the front plate. No where near 1500.
The fact that you pulled 1400 - 1500 from your fictions proves that you have high biases toward Russia.
@Necronomica
Yeah, it’s ~700 vs ~700.
Quick issue with the image you’ve just posted.
Being “Acknowledged” does not mean fixed. It means that it has been sent to the devs and will be looked at.
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Nice photoshop, at least you admit you’re just here to provoke us, and know nothing of War Thunder.
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If you learn to move your cursour around u will see that armor values are changing , but I guess you dont know that .
Also DM73 would go through even those fantasy numbers for T90M , but obviously russina biased Gaijin did not add it for LeoA7
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Yes, it drops lower. I intentionally chose ERA protected area.
Hello Clueles forum user, the numbers you are speaking are classified for example for new abrams they added, or u suggest leaking documents and precise numbers like that one sup mod they ban if u speak his name?
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Oh my God, based TrickZZter.
Sure then you would find places like this on STRV armor , which you cant find on t90m , which is overtuned as all russian eq in this game.
I like how people without any context try to argue, this issue started because u cant provide numbers fpr classified documents but we have rough estimation of modern mbt armor, read all drama that happened before utter nonsense, and flud this forum section
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