RESEARCHABLE heavy tank for Italy please

Exactly, the AMC.34 YR can penetrate less armour than the Csaba, shoots much slower (nearly 8s reload time, it shoots 5x slower than the Csaba), has much worse shell velocity, only 2 crew thus is an easy one shot, and is way slower, especially in reverse.

The Csaba is really not that bad. My only problem with it is the ghost shells that often make half my clip vanish, but if that got fixed then my only problem would be the poor post-pen damage, but with some careful aiming and the good rate of fire, this isn’t a big problem. For a 1.0 armoured car, it’s perfectly fine.

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What I have experienced is that the tnt is too low with only 1g, which doesnt even pepper the enemy crew, so it feels like a ghost shell.

1g of TNT? It has 2.38g of TNT. It does pepper the enemy crew, but unfortunately only peppers the enemy crew.

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My bad, I remembered the L3’s values

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There was a problem in the production of 75 mm thick armor plates for a while since Hungary lacked the industrial capacity for that.
For a while, a 75 mm armor plate was possible only by placing three 25 mm thick armor plates together. Because of that, the first few Zrínyi assault guns had that kind of “sandwiched” armor. However, in October 1943 a new 75 mm thick Ajax armor plate was made. This armor plate had an acceptable 78-90 kg/mm2 (764.9187-882.5985 MPa) tensile strength and provided better protection against 7.5 cm caliber guns than the 50 mm thick armor plates.
The 75 mm Ajax armor plate’s composition: C 0,32-0,40% - Mn 0,9-1,2% - Cr 1-1,7% - Si max. 0,4% - Va max. 0,2% - Ti max. 0,15%. From that time on the Zrínyi assault guns all used this type of Ajax armor for their frontal armor plates. A serial 43.M Turán and 44.M Zrínyi probably would had this type of armor too.

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Falls under the new partial prototype category Gaijin added, so it can still be added.

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Italy could definetely get some great heavy/heavy like medium tanks.

Like, 44m tas, P30/43bis, Panther, and captured tanks (I believe they captured a Churchill, please verify that, tnak you)

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There was no Italian Panther.

Don’t have to be. Both subtrees used it.

Wdym, there wont be a Italian or any subtree Panther, because NEITHER Italy or Hungary or so HAD a Panther.

Hungary used Panthers in combat just like Tiger, while Romania received them from USSR postwar.

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We can agree, that although the ownership is questionable, but they certainly used them. That said, I don’t really care if they are coming or not. Italy 6.0 is packed already with tanks, and there is no other Hungarian tanks to run it with. Furthermore the unhistorical camoshemes really killed the Tigris for me, best to play the bigcats at germany. Maybe if the Tas would somehow find a way to the game, there would be more of a reason to add it.

Ok, show pictures.

Hungarian are in this post:

Romanian here:

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Ok, fair enove.
Still no to an Italian Tree Panther.

Well, from me it would be yes, I spaded all German Panthers apart from II, wouldn’t be against to spade another one in my favorite TT)
Probably one of rare copypaste I would actually like to see.

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No, I mean German Panthers in italy, no?

There doesn’t appear to be any mention of any orders. it’s all technical specifications and assembly progression.

even Nashorn in the back

It’s Hummel. Although from what I read they recieved only a single one from USSR postwar and it had some issue with the cannon breach.

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Romania also had this thing:

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