Its a great plane, its just nowhere even close to being on the same level as a Mig-15bis.
Its been a while since i played the Mig-15, but given i dont think i was ever shot down by one when playing it, and never remember them being much of an issue.
Im gonna say its better than it. More limited, but better.
You also said 30% reduction is within reason. That is at least implied. But that allows one to do exactly that.
Yeah… with a 30% reduction, sounds like a great time.
Honestly dont know how that can be the case given the mobility it gets.
Yeah, enough mobility to keep up with a Yak-38, Milan and such?
The 30mm hits hard sure
Didn’t really convince me
its really nice for 8.7
It’s completely absurd to me to have this WW2 plane flying around at 8.7, facing off against things that easily go over mach and radar guided missiles etc.
If you are able to do well in it, more power to you, but I really don’t think that is balanced.
Yeah you just need reasonable mobility to get into the match. Its not like its a top speed monster, but also doesn’t need to be.
With the flight model it has, yes its great where it is. Honestly its a UFO
I dont think you face a single radar missile that can cause you issues. All of the mach capable aircraft crumble if they turn. And the only IR missiles that are an issue is the Aim-9J and R-60.
Edit: actually all aircraft crumble if they turn
Yeah you just need reasonable mobility to get into the match. Its not like its a top speed monster, but also doesn’t need to be.
Reasonable? Barely even that.
With the flight model it has, yes its great where it is. Honestly its a UFO
So it can turn, great… you’ll need to do a lot of that avoiding things coming at you with mach speed, it’s the same issue with the Zero’s, without speed you can never engage anything, at best you need to be opportunistic and go after planes that are occupied, in a 1v1 you cannot do anything because they can just keep flying away, climb, and attack.
if you do encounter one of the few that actually know how to fight a Ki-200. Then you dodge, use the UFO flight model and shoot as they go by you.
you have speed. you just dont have top speed. You have great acceleration, great speed, great turn rate, great climb rate, good guns.
the only thing the plane is missing is endurance
yeah its like dodging everything else when you have a UFO flight model. very easy.
oh no, in an uptier you need to deal with aircraft that can choose to avoid you (which they should).
Also, i just noticed:
You have 1 battle in the Ki-200. (Presumably the game you used for the screenshot)
Because i was wondering why on earth you were complaining about Radar missiles in a BR range that have none that are actually dangerous. And your highest BR played plane is like 10.0, where there is 1 super dangerous radar missile carrier that im aware of.
But since you are complaining about the Japan jet grind. Play the Ki-200, its very nice.
you were complaining about Radar missiles
Briefly mentioned it once, yes.
oh no, in an uptier you need to deal with aircraft that can choose to avoid you
Doesn’t need to be an uptier for that.
You have 1 battle in the Ki-200.
And you have like 10, so it’s not as if you grinded the entire tree with it either.
no i spaded it, and moved on because i had researched the next vehicle. Thats how i did the japanese tree from jets up to the F-16AJ. Enough games to know how the plane flies.
I say you had 0 matches when you made the comments about the Ki-200. Which is a wierd amount of games to make conclusive statements about an aircraft since you have no idea how well it performs.
Its also why i recommend spading things when grinding your way up the japanese tree
There is no 8.7 that im aware of that is conclusively faster than it.
and by that i mean plane that can run away from you without allready being at top speed or is dumping all their altitude to do so.
There are planes faster than it, but if it had no weaknesses it would be 9.0 or 9.3.
I played the Ki a few days ago and it sucked, regardless the Ki-200 was never the point of any of this, nor would I be able to spade the thing in a dozen games because we’re not all you.
so you played it once Stock. Got an airkill and some ground targets. and decided it was bad.
its part of it. Its part of the tree you pointed to and said was horrible to grind even tho its honestly a rather lenient one all things considered
speaking of not the point. Spading it gives extra XP towards the next aircraft. Perfect to get to the next aircraft you can spade in the Japanese air tree. Honestly why the Japanese air tree is so fast to grind near the top, so few aircraft and it means spading them all is rather cheap.
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This is used as Gaijins business model, they aren’t going to change it, as much as I’d like it to change as well, it probably won’t happen, because it makes them the most money.
so you played it once Stock.
Naturally
Got an airkill
Barely, managed to damage a bad MiG enough that it eventually crashed when trying to land.
and some ground targets.
Also barely, won the game because everyone else died and I struggled to kill ground targets with the 30mm because they’re bad and not accurate.
and decided it was bad.
it was bad compared to everything else around me.
the Japanese air tree is so fast to grind near the top.
Maybe it’s fast for you, I’m not an air player, I don’t like playing air and I don’t spade vehicles in 10 games.
I don’t know if that’s even true, this all just forces people into buying a single top tier vehicle which ultimately makes the gameplay suck for everyone, if other premium vehicles were more useful than they’d be better alternatives and spread players around.
That is what stock guns do
Neither do i. I did in the Ki-200 because it was:
- Incredibly good
- Has very very few modules.
thank you for re-iterating what i said.
That is what stock guns do
The upgrades dont significantly reduce spread, plus stock belt is HEF-I/T- AP and everything else is the same in different combinations which wouldn’t improve effectiveness.
Neither do i.
You have played air a ton more than I have.
thank you for re-iterating what i said.
Its not the same thing
From what i see of YOUR team,… Ki-200 have pretty much the abiltiy to kill everything around as the Ki-200 have more maneuvrability, more Acceleration than anyone at that BR range (apart Me-163B’s which are very similar)
Yet your team died, after doing a minimum of 9 kills (using badges, as you didn’t show everything)
Also, as said earlier :
Stock status of an aircraft is rarely good enough to see if it is good or not.
There is also a reason why Bug-Report requirements, ask us to compare a Fully modified aircraft to the Manuals.
So,…
It’s really not some sort of super weapon, it’s a 1940s jet that really doesn’t match speed with things from decades later, it is agile because it’s tiny and slow in comparison to the giant jets from decades later.
Yes they do.
That doesnt change what i said.
“I decided the Ki-200 was bad after one game”
and
“I decided the Ki-200 was bad after one game by looking at the aircraft around me”
Are functionally the same statements.
it isnt, if it was it would be a higher BR. As it stands its just an amazing 8.7
I played it a bit as well, i just don’t like it because of fuel limitation (as the Me-163) but it otherwise far more capable than most aircrafts.
The maximum speed is your problem, as reaching it don’t :
→ give you advantage
→ best abilities of your aircraft
I would start fast and low altitude, then put the fight on verticals fights, if i were you :
Because you’ll loose speed fast, but gain it back as fast → thing that Many aicrafts can’t in this BR.
Also, you have to make yourself “vulnerable” in order to make the ennemy come to you, reverse it, and kill it → pretty easy to do.
You say it is a Slow aircraft and outdated one → it is also very specific and technically better than most at his BR.
functionally the same statements.
Saying something is bad or saying something is bad relative to the competition is not remotely the same statement.