Removed/hidden vehicles

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Okay so, to a lot I’ve read here are the replies. On the topic of veteran players deserve to have it to themselves I have the receipts to prove that I am one. And also, more proof that veteran players have stuff to show for the age of their accounts.

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^ Aren’t these something no newer accounts can have. That would definitely make an account stand out.

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^This one shows that I was a German main and it’s is the nation I played because I have such an interest in their tanks specifically the era of the discussed vehicles.

And to the veterans built this game, you’re right we did. Maybe I had to finish school, had a big loss in the family, and had other things going on in life than to stay playing this game 24/7.
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And I get event vehicles being a one off, and then you either buy it on the market, or later you might get lucky in a SL box. I got the Ersatz over Christmas, and I was ecstatic. It took 40 million, but I got it. And I’ve played the all the dream come true events and have all the vehicles for it. I missed the T72 Moderna event, so I bought it off the marketplace for a couple hundred because I had the choice to as a little Christmas gift to myself. Also missed more like the IS7 and Object 279 both I really want but I can’t come out of pocket for I got a family. And things like the Surblindé I just don’t have an option to get.

And I know I’m just a number and a player with no voice, but all in all my point still stands. This is a game and they are in the game, whether it was built in real life or not. It is playable content that was in the Tech Tree, and has dodged nerfs, has better pen, better speeds and are better all around at the br that they sit. And newer players still have to verse. And I am a veteran player and I am running into a full set genuinely like every game so “people who have them are small in numbers and getting lower year by year.” That just even sounds awful for the game.

Someone from Gaijin team I still really would love to hear from you why aren’t titles, profile pics, decals, decorations, and so much more enough for the older player base. Why are they getting Tech Tree vehicle gate kept to themselves, again dodging nerfs, etc. Being playable content within your game, that people have to verse but can’t have. And is there ever going to be a way for your player base to get said vehicles and others, being any of the suggested ways. Or is it just in indefinite not my problem no kick rocks. Because genuinely it would determine a lot for me and my future in the game.

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Why should it be any other people`s problem but yours? I mean no disrespect but “gimme now because back then i had better things to do” aint in any way supports your position, rather again explains that its all not for the playerbase but for yourself. Same as those who cry every year for getting Panther 2 “Just this once, just once not maus but panther”. I mean if there were better things to do, you shouldnt consider those pixels as “lost property”. I had better things to do on the winter event, i didnt get the MiG25. I have no sadness about it.

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Is this the cope topic for those not able to enjoy the Flakpanzer’s current god-tier status? If you’re some German main who missed out, just be glad the veteran players, who you seem to hate on, are there on your team ready to carry you.

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You literally have the option to get the Mig25. It’s cheap on the market. If I could I’d toss you my coupon for it. And out of everything you just want to find what makes you feel like you’ve won. But you’re completely missing the point. I said there should be stuff locked for the long termers there are plenty for them. Like all those receipts shown.^ pfp, titles, etc. Dev only, beta only, or YouTuber cup and stuff like that.

I don’t understand why it bothers you guys so much that players want the content that’s in the game. Like I’m no business major but isn’t that good for the game? Don’t you want the game to all around be enjoyable for everyone? Is that truly such a problem? To me it’s not, but it seems like to the people that have everything they want it’s who cares I got it no one else should have it. Or it’s just not my interest so I’m not for it. Like what is that mentality?

There are kids right now that will learn about these wars and have such an interest and find this game and be disappointed that they can’t have something because they weren’t born soon enough. Or they didn’t play but now are a part of the community like everyone else who has a love for the game.

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No this is a there is playable content within the game that isn’t available to everyone because they joined the community later, that maintains it’s worth in staying up to date and better at their br, that yes does receives buff and dodges nerfs, but we have to verse it, despite there being plenty for veterans to have lock away just for them topic.

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I guess.

I personally have been playing the game since 2014 and I don’t have any of the removed german vehicles but you don’t see me complaining.

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That’s the way. My account was made in 2012. I have KT 10.5, Flakpanzer, Panther 2, but there’s a bunch of event and removed vehicles I’ve missed out on. I don’t cry about it, either. Heck, I had to skip the IS-7 event because of university. You just appreciate the vehicles you do have.

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referring back to what i said earlier…

As you show me some respect, i will also answer with showing respect. As i stated earlier:

I was amongst those who treated gaijin badly for that desicion and demanded it to be cancelled. Im not the one who wants equally great treatment of the entire playerbase, i would be happy to see helicopter mains game made unenjoyable, but as for the ground vehicles - im all in for the uniques and prototypes filling the gaps.

That being said, i do believe that if something was proposed and advertised as “limited time only”, it should stay that way as it would be disrespectful to people who spent their time and money on it because it was limited time only. Its their distinction mark and a medal, it should be treated respectfully. Regardless if it was a PFP (like that with chad tankers which were paid only), or the machinery.

Then again, i dont believe it would remotely be a problem if those machines became tech tree again. I`d say more, i will be the one most happy because of it. As it would make matches less filled with copypaste slop.

But your reasoning for it is not what i believe in. Your reasoning shows only a greed about that machinery, which wouldnt be such a problem if wasnt unique AND pretty useful. Its not a call for rare Dewoitine D521 of Britain , nor for the bombers (SB-2, Sm79s) from Germany or USSR which were removed same way. And its definetly not for the “greater good” of the players that would be after you.

So that removing part where HR classic “we are family” leads you to work more for less money (e.g. work on events while others dont and still get the machinery) and thinking of it as “im a part of community i should give”, now we can be egoistic and talk about that i as a player should not be responsible for other people’s kicks and needs.

I earn nothing by helping those new players obtain things i worked hard to get, or just decided to get. I wasnt promised that they would stay the same after removal (and they didnt, they got uptiered) when i got them, but i was promised that the efforts i made to get them would be compensated as they would become uniques. Never players werent promised to get those machines, therefore there are no legal argument about if they should be able to get it.

There is only ethical one that suggests me surrendering rights to uniqueness to benefit the community. Should i? Its not for you to decide until we live in Britain. And not for any other than those who worked at the events to get this stuff. And its no way the “its for the kids” argument would make me. It just shows another time the hypocrisy of one.

And as i said earlier, i would gladly meet those techs being brought back to the research tree. But not any other way, as it would disrespect me as a player.

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Yea no… or better, prove it by showing an real picture of it…

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With respect I say to that. People did events for other things, if not the spent money on the market. But every once in a while, it comes out with a possibility to get it in a SL box? Let’s just say the Object 279 people either did the event, idk if this was there at the time but GE’d the task or bought it off the market. But came to the game with a low possiblity in the SL box? [Special] Lucky Piñata - News - War Thunder

Does that not contradict yours

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I’m generally of the opinion that they should be removed entirely for everyone, or they should be available for everyone; and that’s not to say they should have to then be available as TT vehicles, they could be part of a rolling annual event like the Maus, or a “Dreams Come True” type of event (could call it ‘Dreams Come Two’), or be a reward for (e.g.,) 5 years of playing the game no matter when you started. At least with premiums and marketplace vehicles everyone has equal access to the vehicles in theory.

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As people who grinded that had a chance to sell it, i find it acceptable that others can get those for money. Tho same cant be said about earlier event vehicles from times when Market wasnt an option, and im not really sure if its okay that you can get that from lootboxes.

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it was in fact a “lego event”.

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I have all of them

But i agree with you non optainable vehicles suck
They should really bring them back in some capacity

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Not sure if I catched the question, but if you ask “will they return?” ( 3 German vehicles), the answer is no. Nothing changed here.

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Yes my question was about the 3 removed tanks in Germany tec !
thanks for the answer mr stona !

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All with respect, like I said I’m all for the veteran players having specials just for them. But why lock away the playable content? Even if I did play 2014 through now and have everything on my account possible. I would still want the community to be able to have the vehicles to. I always let my friends know there is an event going on, or these SL boxes are happening, or an update is about to take place. Etc. Because I want all of us within the community to have the fun for clearly the passion we have for the game, and the idea. And for whatever the vehicle may be my interest or not.

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That being said, that only is option for an event vehicles suitable for sale on market. Those excluded from the tech tree still stand out, and i believe the only way to get them to new players that is fair for veterans is to include them back to tech tree

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