omg… i just saw an M-51… i started shaking and peed a little, but then i remembered i wasnt a giant pussy (hint, i never forgot) and just shot it and. holy cow… it… Died…
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I was struggling to believe this wasn’t a bait post until I decided to look at OP’s player card, yeah no
it checks out.
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not a Single reason?
how bout, if you shoot it with anything, including an m22… it dies… (or at the very least gets Significantly damaged, by ANYTHING that shoots it) Stop your whining and Shoot the freaking thing.
My complain is not becuase is hard to kill or i dont know how to deal with this tank, my complain is becuase i considered is undertiered after play it.
So move to 6.3 and 6.7 where should be stay since long time ago or move the other similar tanks to idiotic low BR aswell.
dude… No
its Cannon is Good for the BR, but its armor and mobility and everything else is Bad for that BR… so it evens out to be FINE at 6.0 just like virtually Every other Glass cannon tank in the game.
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So, why are you not breaking this pattern?
For lots of different reasons, many players end up stuck in a loop of negativity when it comes to this game. I’m telling you how you can break out of that and have fun, which is the only reason why you would ever bother spending time with a video game.
Stop overthinking the situation and get on with your match. You’d be surprised how much fun you can have then.
Gaijin made their business decision about this years ago, and for understandable reasons. Forum threads aren’t going to change that. Even moderated suggestions have a much more limited scope, as they should be.
I suggest trying IL-2 Tank Crew, even though it’s not perfect. You can also download some pretty neat single player user missions from WT Live, I remember playing one about Operation Spring Awakening that was quite well done.
But there are so many games on WW2 in general, which often do include armour as well in different capacity, that you can go on a binge if you really have that itch to scratch.
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I still disagree, if you think it needs to be moved up, it doesn’t need to face, like I’ve already said, the IKV 91 with a LRF. It doesn’t have a stabilizer, and it has 0 armor at the BR it’s sitting, not like a Jagdtiger with armor, there’s a point where armor starts meaning nothing, and shot placements do.
Just because you don’t like where it sits because of its penetration, then take a good look at all aspects of it and realize you’re wrong. It has no good sights, no good armor, and most importantly, no stabilizer, at 7.7 it would be such an easy target, like I said, it would be able to be killed at 3.3BR against the Puma (Sd.Kfz. 243), so by reasoning, you can figure why it’s at 6.0/6.3
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No, is not fine. worse tanks are moved up only because his gun can lolpen everything and this is not a exception.
Great argument. Sorry if you are bad player and need time traveler for destroy WW2 but soon or later this tank is going up.
I’d love to see you rush in a Tiger II. The thing spends most of its time in the 20s. To get and stay in the 30s is pretty rare actually.
I dont know what im going enjoy more the BR bump for the M-51 or your ban, Byeeeee.
Please @Stona_WT
Why do you insult everyone who you disagree with. It’s incredibly annoying, and it makes me not support your opinion even tho I think the M51 is fine at 6.0.
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So your telling me, an no armor, no stabilized, no LRF tank at 7.7 is going to be fair, yeah buddy, think again. Going in constant upteirs to 8.0/8.3 possibly even 8.7, yeah, sounds fair to me, almost every tank at this BR has LRF and armor angles so great you’d think your shooting at the moon hoping to have your round go out the other side. If you dislike the M-51 at 6.0 then just cope, it’s not bad where it is, and back to the first post I made on this thread, I can penetrate this thing with Puma, a 3.3 vehicle.
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Considering such tank is already at 8.0 and 8.3,i dont see any issue. cough AMX-30 with exactly same gun and ammo as M51.
Yeah, fair, but it at least has armor, and crappy ammo
What armor, that thing is more paper than the M51,the only thing its better at is the coaxial 20mm and slightly more mobility. And LRF,tho i am not sure if they even have it,havent touched them for years.
Well, idk the pen, but if it’s on par with the Ikv 91 and a bit of armor, and LRF, it makes sense, it’s stabilized too as far as I know, but IDK.
Why the constant talk of “historical”? And your solution to people pointing out all of the super unbalanced histocial stuff is “add a tank no one will play”.
You want to make changes so big that the game will no longer be the same.
Might as well go to the WoT forum and demand that they get rid of HP damage and add player controlled aircraft.
All of this because why? A single tank killed you while you were busy holding W because you forgot that the history channel lied about German tanks being god-like?
If you want historical mm, then we need to do a lot more than that. Mm would need to limit nations to only fighting nations they actually fought and with vehicles that they fielded during a certain time period. How would that work? Would we have to make a line up that is only a certain year and hope enough people are in queue for the same year with a matchable nation?
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The ammunition fired from the M-51 goes 200 m/s slower, at 800 compared to 1000 m/s. On top of that the AMX-30 reloads faster (8.7 to 6.7 seconds compared to 9.7 to 7.5 seconds depending on crew level), has a rangefinder, and faster turret traverse.
So the M-51 with worse hp/ton than the M26 Pershing (11.5 versus 12.03), and no reverse speed has only slightly worse mobility than the AMX-30 with 20 hp/ton and significantly better reverse speed.
Yeah, that doesn’t quite compute.
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Yes because all tank around 7.7 are perfectly balanced with armor and stbz…
This is one of the most stupid arguments never readed in this forum. So the new german SpZ LGZ need to be move to 5.0 because can be penned frontally by M3 Stuart and i dont know lets move the Maus to 6.7 too since the few 6.3 and 6.0 tanks can lolpen his forntal armor , Cmon and you talk about thinking??? really???