How is 400 mm pen that only kills crewmembers in a straight line different to…
250/210 (0/30) mm pen that only kills crew members in a straight line. (Challenger APDS)?
381/308 (0/30 mm pen that only kills crew members in a straight line? (Charioteer APDS)?
Also, why are people complaining about the M-51 and not the Ratel?
I have a guess:
The M-51 is visible and obvious. It’s literally the only tank israel TT players can use for hundreds of games. It’s a reserve tank, so it’s gonna be there as all 3 of their respawns.
Ratel 90 shows up at the start of the game and then disappears and only some british players even use it.
This is despite the fact that the ratel 90 is far more jarring and anti-immersion than “Sherman with fancy ammo.”
Compare the mobility between the M51 and DF105, which has the Marder IFV hull. DF105 has twice the Power to Weight Ratio, gets same reverse speed as forward (75kmh), and has a 5 sec reload. Both of these tanks have next to useless armor, with both of these tanks having trolly armor sometimes. But it is clear what is better.
people complain about these because german mains and US mains cry when their oversized heavy tanks gets penned by a heat slinger. They dont complain about heat slingers in their TTs (M50, M56, Jpz 4-5, T92, M41s) and they only remember M51 because they see it a lot and they complain about ratel as “atgm too strong”
AFAIK, either DF105 or AMX30 has superior manoeuvrability than M-51.
Also, Better armoured for what? being 50cal-proof?
Your claim sounds like,
Wolverine is insanely broken since it shares the same gun and shell of M4A2 (76) W on 5.3BR.
Of course, we can have another example for it. Archer and Firefly.
Getting penned by 400pen HEAT can be annoying. but punishing only M-51 is brutal.
the super sherman is only a problem ad 6.0 because you can spawn the bloody thing three times. They get spammed because it has three lives like its arcade and has a god shell. Everything else about it blows.
No, take for example the sturer Emily at 4.0 in the German tree despite having a 128mm gun and being able to punch well above itself it’s still 4.0 due to terrible mobility and armor. DF105 is faster and has an oscillating turret for better gun stabilisation as well as the ability to scout
Yeah, 4-8x is so much better than the 8-16x on the ST-A1 and 2. You can actually engage enemies at distances closer than 800m. Rangefinder and mobility sure, dunno on suspension. It’s pretty bouncy at times.
In return the M-51 gets an outright better gun in the post-pen department. HEAT shells’ postpen is directly influenced by remaining penetration.