And then everybody would want the m51 to be moved down due to facing stuff like the fox, or the G6 (brit main so don’t know other high tier ground br countries very well) and we would be back at square one
ever heard of an uptier?
the OP, i accidently clicked reply to the wrong person
A 6.7 tank is uptiered to 7.7
Not 8.7
But you just described the m51 as having “good mobility” and no your saying it has none? get your story straight
When did we start talking about 8.7?
Oh wow
I hate 5.0s, 5.3s and even 5.7s facing M51s and I think this AMX-30-Lite should definitely have its BR increased, but 7.7 is too much even for me xD
I’d say 6.7 seems fair.
I said the PREMIUM M51. The one with the M4A3 HVSS hull
I think u missunderstood me or u commented to the wrong person
i commented to the wrong person
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still struggling to see what you mean as the m-51 and the m-51(W) have the same speed…
Maybe more hpt
The M51(W) is based on the M4A3 HVSS hull. The wiki might be wrong, since all the other M4A3s have better mobility than the M4A1
Have had no issue with 90mm HEAT-FS postpen at a higher BR, a shell with less HE load, lower caliber, and less pen.
Whay was this vehicle if i may ask?
Im sure it has much better mobility and maybe armor as well
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(vitality crew skill comrade xaxaxa)
They both have hvss and the same drivetrain
Jpz 4-5 and M56. Both carry 90mms with M431 HEAT-FS. Extremely mobile, small profiles, and ratty
As i thought
M51 has poor mobility bad profile and like every cone exept for pen
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Pen ist the most important stat. So 400mm pen at this BR is hyper op. DF105 with exactly the same gun and shell is BRed at 8.0BR. Its insanity. The sherman hull is even better armored and still the M-51 BR is 6.0. Still people defend 400mm pen at 6.0 as good thing.