False. You can one shot tanks like Panthers, T-34s, Jumbos with onely one hit in the middle.
Ok, when the German LGS can move to 6.0 too???
I never siad you can’t.
What?
With that, i was representing, that the M-51 has no armor, while the guy cliamed that you have to flank it to kill it.
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You said without hit his ammorack you need " a very, very, very lucky shot" and this is false.
Ok, but according to you the LGS with worse armor, gun rotatiton, postpen damage, less speed shell and long reload should be 6.0 too, or this tank is fine in 6.7 ???
Ok, i check your stats and why ARCADE players use his arguements against RB players in REALISITC MODE SUB FORUM. Both modes have completely different BRs for some reasons. Just can stay in your sub section for discussions???
You can but firing at a Panther with a nice well aimed shot is like spinning the roulette wheel.You may be gifted a kill or you may not.Depends on on the great Gaijin God.
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Yeah, the side shoot at the Tiger II H turret where ammo is and where if I shoot with APCR results in ammo rack, with heat resulted with ‘hit’. After that game I stopped playing M-51 (It was 9 days ago)
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Dude, that does not mekes any sense. So i will try to explain you once more.
The dude said, that he needs to flank the M-51 to kill it. It mean, that he thinks that the M-51 has good armor. I just demonstrated, that the M-51 has trash armor. It has nothing to do with the LGS, and i don’t understand why you even brought it up.
So, it looks lika arcade has different ballistics, damage calculation, armor. Noted.
Why do you guys attack the other with this BS… Oh yeah, because you have no real argument in this topic.
This is the same mentality when a high school bully attacks someone for their look, height, or anything really…
What will be the next “argument”? Pick a few misspellings from my side? Or grammatical errors?
Come back when you have a real argument.
Now on a serious note.
It is about the M-51. In both modes it is big, paper, slow, and the only advantage it has is penetration. Everything else SUCKS on it, or at best, it is just average. No matter which mode you use it in.
In both mode it will just lolpen a Panther, a Tiger 2, a Jagdtiger, a Maus, everything at waaaay higher BRs than where it sits.
But it sits where it sits, because, as i sadi, everything else is trash on it. Yeah, the AMX-30 uses the same gun and ammo. But please don’t try to say that therefore the 2 tanks are equal!
There are many other tanks that i mentioned that also have extremely high pen compared to the BR they are in, some even has really high damage too, yet those are still bad tanks.
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Dude just no, for kill a Panther frontally the only you need is aim to the middle of the tank.
And again, why are you here complaining about BR change for RB when you are a practically only Arcade player???
You know the same tank have different perform in RB or Arcade and TAHTS WHY THE SAME VEHICLE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT BRS ???
Or you think one tank have different BRs just for pure fun???
using your own writing style:
DO YOU THINK EVERY VEHICLA HAS DIFFERENT BR IN ARCADE THAN IN REALISTIC???
Yes, some has different BR. That’s called “balancing”.
I hope you realise that he does not wants BR change!
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Slow Cardboard SPG named M-51 is on its own place now.
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No point picking on one player when so many of us agree with him or her.
I play only RB and Panther and Tiger 2 are the tanks that appear on the test range a lot so we all know where to hit them I think.
Take the M51 onto the test range and fire head on at the advanced Russian tanks and the M51 is a one shot killing machine.Try it in battle and you will do what I did yesterday and that is get no kills in 4 games when I was getting kills all day in the Panther.
I can only presume this is because The M51 was only available as an expensive pack and Gajin want you to buy it(Allegedly)
The M51 is a one trick pony.A sniper rifle made of glass.You find a good place ,set up your fishing rod and hope you get plenty of catches.You may get six kills or more likely you may sit there all game and get none.
Start moving around the map in an M51 and it’s goodbye,Pray you don’t run into an M22 or a Puma…or nine year old Korean girl in a BT5 lol,they will all kick your ass.
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Same vehicle have differents BRs depending the mode becuase they have totally different perform, can yous top changing the discussion. If the M51 have the same BR right now is becuase Gaijin totally forget this thing exist or premiun M51 are selling well but of course that thing are going up soner or later.
You are here in “REALISTIC” section saying the M51 is fine in 6.0 when you NEVER played this or against this vehicle in “REALISITC” so go to “ARCADE” section for cry dude because here you opinion is USELESS.
0 battles played, and thats why Gaijin use stats and not players suggestions lol, right now the supported of the M51 are fine in 6.0 are people actually never played LMAO.
I played against it and with it in my team, if M-51 is spotted it dies, its payment for 400mm pen HEAT shell.
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You can’t stat bully me because I am on here in an account I don’t use much but I have a Gold star for crew on the M51 ,I played it that much months ago.Ground Israel up to 7.0 on every space mostly with the M51
It is correct at 6BR because 6BR is 7BR in WT most of the time and at 6BR you are forced to think and use your skill and map knowledge,that is assuming Gaijin don’t change the map and make your knowledge worthless.
6 is just fine for the M51.
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now itsd only good part is its cannon but everthings else is bad an dtiger h1 and panther are broken so its very good at balancing the armor meta but evertime i play panther in tiger the 105 heat kill 1 crewmemeber at best and the thijng has no armr
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Same for LGS (6.7), ST tanks (6.3), Ratel 90 (6.3), etc etc etc…
I dont know why server you played but my most common battles are 6.3/ 6.7 and the most common enemies are Tigers, Panthers and T-34s
And for all tank metioned above but thanks to acces to LOLpen ammo they was moved to higher BRs so the M51 need to move up too.
Aaaand another M51 expert never played the M51 … this forum is a bad joke.
Lower silhouette and has reverse and 20mm gun.
Faster reload and have reverse.
Faster reload, reverse, much better mobility
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LGS and Ratel are light tanks. The ST tanks have way better mobility (one has a 6s autoloader), and they can use both APHE AND HEAT…
What do you think, why didn’t they move up the… Ikv103? It is 2 bloody BR LOWER with a same pen HEAT-FS (so not even just HEAT, like on the M-51) for crying out loud.
You haven’t played it that much too…
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wym i play the m51 its perfectly fine at 6.0 when i play germany im not pissing and screaming over som e thing seing me that has non existent post pen
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