You have to wonder why the Germans even adopted the PzH 2000, since according to Gaijin’s rendition of it, not only does it have a barely faster reload, but its M107 shell has a slower velocity than the short barreled M109.
8 Likes
Its honestly completely absurd.
Nerfing the reload to be worse than literally every contemporary is laughable enough, giving a vehicle with a Gun whos WHOLE POINT was to be longer to get higher velocity and better ranges copy-pasted stats from one thats 40 years older and less than half the calibre-length is just insane.
11 Likes
Its armor is purely chemical in a BR of darts.
Another botched vehicle for Germany much like the Luchs. Supremely disappointing that these iconic vehicles are totally a-historical and gimped.
5 Likes
and they shouldn’t.
Br should be for balancing, not some prooven numbers be played with.
Even having like sub-variants so for example the F14 A doesn’t get AIM 9 L’s, even if those got introduced 2 years after the AIM 7 F
1 Like
I agree with your point but there’s nothing we can do. A lot of vehicles in game have inaccurate reload rate and gaijin used the same excuse for them. I don’t really see any hopes of getting historic reload rate for Pzh2000.
I don’t understand why this vehicle and the Sholef have such long reload rates when compared to vehicles like the Vidar and Chinese PLZ05. As well, why does the Sholef not have a laser rangefinder?
3 Likes
We complain because it’s completely wrong on a realistic basis. Once this game tried to be as realistic as possible. Lately it absolutely doesn’t look like that.
Greetings from somebody who is at top tier in 6 nations and 10.0 at a 7th.
Btw, the best MBT is in the Swedish tree.
2 Likes
than where were you when the sholef got added with his 12 sec reload and no lrf? I don’t care about historical accuracy in this game because now its when it arange people. When its israel that have completly unhistorical vehicle and yeah its not a big issue but germany? ??? hell no we need to fix that asap.
Are u sure u want to go like this? Cause I’v never seen a such large post/topic talking about the sholef missing a log of things, look how many peoples talked about the Sholef and after the Pzh 2000 and you will see a HUGE difference.
2 Likes
In fairness messing with the swedish autoloader mafia is unlikely to go well for gaijn lmao
Missing spall liners
Missing camo net
Missing SAP shell
Missing autoloader
Wrong top speed (should be 60 kph)
13 second reload
7.7 BR
And somehow its “best of its class” when its the worst out of all the sphs in the game your better off playing the m44 or using a differnt country like chinas plz05 which is acutally acurate and has the same features that the pzh lacks
3 Likes
PLZ 05
Has spall liners
Has SAP
Forward gear 60km/hr
7.5s autoloaded
7.7 BR
3 Likes
when you loose your loader that “autoloader” the pzh 2000 has somehow increases to a insane 20s for a autoloaded tank even if its semi autoloaded it realisticly should never be that high to load a charge
3 Likes
I won’t let this thread die, I was waiting for PzH2000, I can’t forgive them putting it in this miserable state
2A7HU
VIDAR having thermals, faster reload rate and higher mobility at 0.3 br higher and PZL05 having faster reload, better armor, better anti tank capability and higher mobility at the same BR is extremely funny to me
The Vidar isnt even the most egregious example, the PLZ already does all of that (only lacking thermals) while having a better selection of ammunition than the PzH and its at the same BR
oh ye i remembered about the PZL like half a minute before you replied >_<
Is insane how fast Germany eat nerfs. Meanwhile Soviets enjoy of grace periods and selective oblivion for months or even years.