Reload of the PzH 2000

Machinery of War Discussion Ground Vehicle
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The reload of the PzH 2000, marked with 10 seconds at max crew capabilities, is wrong.

Its reload should ork something lile this:

1 round in the gun

2 rounds in the loading arm and the loading carrousel respectively, giving a reload rate between the first and second and between the second and third round of 5 seconds each (3 rounds in 10 seconds)

The rest of the rounds should have a reload of 6-9 seconds at top crew loading speed (up to 10 rounds per minute according to KNDS and Wikipedia)

Source:

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Smin has already said that reload rate is based on balance.

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I would like to ask then (no sarcasm but genuine curiousity) why the Vidar or the Plz05 are standing at their Br’s with their higher reload rate. I would gladly take the Pzh2000 onto 8.0 or 8.3 if it means we get its actual or more realistic reload rates.
For the Plz05 for example if my memory serves me rightit has a reload rate of around 7.5 seconds and a full spall liner lined turret.
I really just want to understand the reasoning behind it all and would love the Devs actual reasoning for this difference in their decisions.

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Of course, its the German vehicles always getting the nerfs for the so called balancing reasons.
Its funny how gaijin always assumes that only German and US vehicles will break the game and not the vehicles of other nations.

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I create this issue, hope it can be:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/UhcBSbHsEMFp

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sholef has a 12 sec reload without lrf, nvd ect at 7.3 even though there is video of it shooting 8 round in a minute, so no, germany isn’t the only country to be balance with reload.

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gaijin should watch this:

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I didnt mean it completely. For example, you have the Sabra Mk1 at 9.7. And dont even begin on how advanced it is for its br. You wont find a vehicle like that in Germany.

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My point simply was they want the game to be accurate when it comes to nerfing a vehicle but act the exact opposite when the realism buffs the vehicle in some sort.

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VK? the panther 75mm HV gun at 5.0. same thing as the sabra, a completly stupide gun at a lower br than what you use to find it.

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Paper side armor, Easy to flank, horrible turret traverse, horrible reverse speed. Yeah buddy try again.

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those downside are the same as the sabra…

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If you want to use the 75mm hv gun at 5.0 technique, does that mean the British Archer TD should go upto 4.7, 5.0 br?

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Give me 1 good downside of Sabra compared to other tanks of that br range.

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its a TD… The vk has a good speed and can turn is turret even if its crazy slow, plus the 76 is dogshit where the 75 HV is completly stupide.

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Bkan? How about that? Balance my rear or balance everything at once god damn it… It was ok with 7, not quite right yet, but still good enough for me to call it a day…

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You are actually being biased my guy.

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no speed, dogshit armor and 0 survavibility.

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and your not ? you have the best top tier tank in game and still complain because your pzh 2000 isn’t crazy op.

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Bro besides russian mbts, name one MBT with good armor in that br range.
As for survivability, you have the Leo 1a5s, M60A3s, AMX 30s which also have dogshit survivability.