Reload of the PzH 2000

See you are crying now, lost the debate and brought up a completely different topic.

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Like the example you used for the Sabra, leopard 2a7v doesnt have 5 sec reload like most mbts and neither has excellent mobility.

M60A3 is 9.0 and all other vehicle you mentioned are like 2 time faster, sabra is slow and doesn’t compensate with his armor.

2A7 is at most 5 KM/H slower than most mbt, but his armor largely compensate his reload rate. plus it has the best round in game. why do you think most minor nation player used leopard over than nation mbt? why italy player play the 2A7 HU over the ariete even though the ariete has a 5 sec reaload and DM53? why french player were happy to have the 2A6 in their TT? Why china and japan fight to know which of them will receive the 2SG ? Because the leoapard 2 are stupidly overpewered.

They weren’t

Not really, spall liners are nice though, but holes in armor and general underperformance is annoying

It’s not, basically, or you’re having a massive skill issue perhaps.

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would love to know which tank is better than the 2A7 then.

Sweedish Strv

  • depending on situation - japanese MBTs

its a leopard… you basicly prove my point… Leopard are broken since the only better option from the 2A7 is a leopard it mean that the only thing better than a leopard is a leopard.

And this is a cope

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And they are advertising their game with saying its an realistic simulation? Im sorry, but that´s just laughably stupid.

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You haven’t posted a citation for your claim about it being a balance decision.
Also, Soviet stuff is in the same boat.

Disagree and I’ll stand on that till the last bloodcell of mine would drain

How is the leo 2A7 even related to the pzh2000?

Even so they usually put it within the realm of realistic, from what I understand this is completely unrealistic.

Sturm Tiger is probably a exception

Yeah, being an event only vehicle that makes them some money they went for a 1 minute reload(shouldn’t it be like 4 minutes and need a crane or something?)

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really pzh have 13 sec reloaddd thisd is reallly realistic… chinese spg have 7,5 sec vidar 6 sec, sweedes spg in 6.7 3,2 sec but no german spg have 13 sec reload in reality… why nerfed all leopard 2 depresion is side? because irl is same no? so?..?

I’m kinda on the fence about the br in this case, because I really want to be using it with my Maus and I’ve been waiting for a 7.7 vehicle to be released.
If the reload is because of balancing reasons then I guess I can accept this double standard in this case.

Actually yeah now that I see the PLZ05 that thing really shouldn’t be a 7.7 with its 7.5s autoloader and spall-lined turret.

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Now look what shells it uses… Specifically their speed and penetration…

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That argument makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

The Type 99 is at a lower BR with a 7.5 Sec autoloader & better mobility, just no LRF.
The VIDAR is only 0.3 BRs higher with better mobility, thermals, better shells and a much better reload.
The PLZ05 is at the same BR, with better shells, better mobility, better protection AND a 7.5 Second reload.

What on earth justifies the PzH needing a higher reload for “balancing” when a vehicle thats better at everything at the exact same BR doesnt???

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