yeah but having to aim is russian bias. /j
Fuel tank on Leclerc detonates. Been the case for a while.
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Looking at how the Abrams finally doesn’t become a vegetable by a fart, did they spread the M1A1 changes to every Abrams?
The T-80BVM’s spall liner together with Relikt ERA makes its armor almost impossible to penetrate.
Naturally, the T-80BVM will just one-shot you through the Abrams’ LFP afterward. Gaijin has no documentation on the Abrams’ lower glacis, so they assume it’s exactly the same as it was back in the 1970s.
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What does a spall liner even have to do with penetration
Oh no I can be killed on my LFP like any tank against every tank, please just stop your cope.
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Didn’t you know that all top-tier Soviet MBTs have spall liners? They’re not visible in the hangar, but they’re definitely there. Otherwise, how do you explain the lack of spall after a shell penetrates the armor?
Yeah, yeah, the lower glacis is basically the same thing. Well done.
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You’re including part of the ufp for the Abrams and excluding part of the lfp for the T-90.
Also…
You’re whining about T-80 but then you show a T-90 with armour comparison?
(Aiming is so hard, not like more weak spots exist)
Hä?
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It’s the EXACT same armor layout.
There are NO differences between an uparmored T-80B and a new T-90M. /j
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It’s not that the t80bvm has a spall liner, it has its autoloader modelled as having a 6mm sheet of metal around it that eats spall and doesn’t create any hence giving the appearance of acting like a spall liner. It should really be modelled as creating spall but doesn’t as that would make the survivability of the vehicle quite a lot worse. It’s similar to the bmpts turret basket that they’ve modelled as being a floating piece of armor between the turret and turret floor.
Hitting autoloader =/= hitting ammo. Aim for commander side as the rack fills up first from there. Or dont hit fuel tanks, they are a black hole on all tanks.
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I have many nations, including Russia, and I can tell you that the best tank in the game, the BMPT, is still at tier 11.7. The best helicopter, the Mi-28, is in Russia, the best CAS is in Russia, you can expect an update from Gaijin removing all cannons from NATO vehicles just for “balance”.
such a stud…In your own mind I guess. IPM1 is NOT better than bvm. NO way NO how.
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Weirdo much?
IPM1 is more mobile, especially in reverse. It posses a much better reload, shell count, gun angles, and overall utility.
The only thing BVM does better is “armor”, not to say BVM armor is saving you much anyway.
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- shell count as a + for the M1
Lol, lmao even
The NATO hump exists, this is patently false.
Do tell what “utility” features the IPM1 has over the BVM, I would absolutely love to know what you are going to cherry pick here.
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that’s only over the back
You rarely will ever need that.
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Because it is genuinely a pro? You can take almost double rounds in the M1 compared to 28 in the T80. Both have their survivability significantly hampered by taking a lot of shells, but M1 can still take more.
You’d understand the importance of this once you climb up the skill ladder.
So we’ll ignore the gun elevation and depression, which are 5x more important.
I’ll actually take the L for this, as I misremembered some of the features BVM had. BVM has HE, M1 has smoke shells, and for the rest they are relatively equal.
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Which is better?
depression over the front and sides
or no depression everywhere
This has been my ammo load on 120 Abrams as of late. 28 APFSDS, 3 HEATMP, 3 HE-OR for hull-down BMPTs and slightly exposed crew compartments, plus 1 APFSDS for when you get ammoracked and the bug swaps you to your last shell. If I was to carry less, id be missing out on multiple near 20 kill games.
For example. I have more but theres an attachment limit.
While this is for the 120 Abrams, you can carry 30 + 2 HEAT + 2 Smoke + 1 in the M1IP and have leftover bustle space, plus a ton of rounds to play around with in extended games.
Gun elevation is somewhat niche, but it comes in play occasionally nevertheless. Saying gun depression is a skill issue is such an ignorant statement its not even funny. Plenty of maps and meta spots are locked behind good gun depression, why do you think good players almost always praise NATO tanks and not RU/CN ones? Im also not a Russian main.
HEAT doesnt ever come into play, and the ATGMs are niche and only really used in tournaments.
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Having the same depression across the entire volume of the vehicle regardless of the angle.
And notice the common bit about the games you posted, thats right, you have people spawning more than 1 tank normally. This is not common at all to the point that gaijin even tried to bait people into playing more by giving them free top tier vehicles to use which changed nothing.
Congrats you lucked out and actually had enemies that gave you the option to kill them more than once in a select few matches, such is not at all the norm nor indicative of a benefit for the M1, especially given you have access to capture points in all of these maps.
It does not on the IPM1 as it lacks any sort of mentions that would benefit from 15+ degrees of elevation, as already said such elevations only come into play with anti-helicopter work and given it is the 105mm and not the 120mm with M830A1 you are better off using the commander .50 which is identical in use to the BVM’s .50.
Please cry more, like Ruskie mains have been for years now, ya’ll have had more than 10 years to get better.
Given you show up and vehemently defend Russian equipment in nearly every single thread talking about that that will be a hard no from me.
You are comparing the IPM1 to the BVM, the IPM1 has a stock HEAT grind, so yes it does.
Irrelevant, one vehicle has one and the other does not and you are basing the comparison off of utility, having the system at all allows for unique uses like shooting down helicopters, which the IPM1 cannot by default as it lacks a GLATMs.
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