Relikt Armor Buff

[PantherBait]

I mean, they get an auto loader which isnt impacted by crew health or loss… with a reload rate of 6-7.1 seconds without needing to spade… and again isnt reduced by damage

It can still turn and fire a return shot if its auto loader is taken out… unlike western mbts.

And you have massive amounts of armor to compensate - but russian players try to play their tanks like they’re a go kart and wonder why they explode. In every single frontal or angled damage simulation your green map of weak points is smaller than EVERYONE else.

Also you have an atgm that has 700-800mm of pen depending on the tank… that out performs every other mbt dart by miles, and if they want anything like it they beed to bring an IFV with zero armor and try to use it.

So yeah, you got fire power and armor.

[PantherBait]

Hey if you’re ingame rn could you grab an angle shot at 47 and then again at 67?

I’d like to see the Leo and the T90 differences with accurate angles.

[Great_Paywall]

Tank is yet has to survive first or not lose it’s breeching. also how much people did you see using missiles and using them successfully lmao? let’s start with fact that dart is faster. also i’m pretty certain some atgms can nerf reload even more

[Dead_Undertaker]

[PantherBait]

Yeah I know in the MBT70 and xm803 the ATGM takes longer, which would be almsot the extent of my mbt atgm experience.

And right, same with any missile carrier you have to be more careful with your shots. And sometimes you just straight up get gaijined with that.

You get a lot more penn and post penn damage but have to be more intentional with your shots.

[PantherBait]

Seems like a much easier shot to kill for them than us. Just saying, lot more green there.

[MiGoon_Fox-3]

@PantherBait

It can still turn and fire a return shot if its auto loader is taken out… unlike western mbts.

western MBTs can also shoot once when their autoloader is out.

@PantherBait

So yeah, you got fire power and armor.

You’re talking about armour, not firepower

[PantherBait]

If I recall most dont have auto loaders.

The leclerc does and its getting a turrent basket, meaning it cant turn its turret like the T series.

Yeah we can shoot by turning the entire tank which takes longer than just turning the turret like T series.

Not exactly an equal comparison.

[MiGoon_Fox-3]

leclerc autoloader is not near the basket

[PantherBait]

Does it have an invisible armor panel around it that reduces spall and reduces ammo damage?

You know, like the data mine shows the t series having?

[MiGoon_Fox-3]

Keep in mind ufp is autobounce

That with the future turret ring buff is the better armour layout

can’t kill through the turret so easily

[MiGoon_Fox-3]

@PantherBait

Does it have an invisible armor panel around it that reduces spall and reduces ammo damage?

I find it doubtful that there is an invisible one on the T-series

but the turret basket also does its part in soaking up spall paired with fuel tanks

[PantherBait]

The upper front plate is tiny. Short of using HE, any regular player isnt going to aim for UFP on abrams?

[PantherBait]

There literally is. Lemme try and find the link for you.

[MiGoon_Fox-3]

simply mentioning the ufp autobounce to avoid cope regarding it being slightly green

[MiGoon_Fox-3]

turn the “vertical angle” button off

[Дана_горячая]

@PantherBait

I mean, they get an auto loader which isnt impacted by crew health or loss… with a reload rate of 6-7.1 seconds without needing to spade

6.0s is statcard lie, it’s 6.4 for 3MB60 for T-80BVM. And you’re acting like 7s is fast lol? every tank at tt except leopards start out at6.5s which is almost as fast as the best russia gets.

@PantherBait

In every single frontal or angled damage simulation your green map of weak points is smaller than EVERYONE else

This is just completely false.

@PantherBait

Also you have an atgm that has 700-800mm of pen depending on the tank

Have you ever even used these ATGMS’s? They are near useless. penetration is NOT everything.

[Дана_горячая]

@PantherBait

getting a turrent basket, meaning it cant turn its turret like the T series

Autoloader and turret basket isn’t even near the same place

[Дана_горячая]

There is none, he is coping. Only T-90M (and Arena-M) have spall liners for mbt’s.

[PantherBait]

Russian top tier tanks need a fair buff

As a follow-up to the trunnions thingy: I just noticed that gaijin essentially deleted HALF of all russian MBT’s breeches with the addition of trunnions. [grafik] This is a screenshot from 09/2025, which is after the module changes but prior to the addition of trunnions. With the addition of trunnions, essentially the entire frontal area of the breech-dm has been deleted and replaced with additional armour: [grafik] [grafik] So not only did they reduce the hitable area of the breech, t…

Here’s the link. Not cope bro, you are getting hidden benefits as a russian player based on this data.