Regarding the Hull Armor of the M1A2 SEP V3

Standards for qualification has changed its now 10 rpm but typically loaders get to 5 seconds between rounds with amazing ones at the 4.5 ish mark

Bro. T series get hit and can still turn and fire. 90% the time the brams loses its ring, basket, hydro, bla blah blah.

Until t series cant just turn the turret and fire, w key players will be rewarded by picking suboptimal rush tactics since they can return fire more often than any other mbt.

I don’t, I’m Russian and a patriot, and unlike what many interpret this to mean it isn’t “we’re the greatest and have no problems”. So unless you want to say that i’m self-hating Russian or a ““traitor””, this argument really doesn’t hold up. My agenda is game being fun to play.
Our vehicles are not the best in the world and are really outdated, combined with inability to learn from our history we’ve once again ostracized ourselves from the rest of the world and their vastly more advanced technology. I do like Merkava, and to deny my bias is dishonest, but the same can be said about you no? You want Russian stuff to do good or at least play nice. But i doubt adding armor will make Merkava superior, it’ll still be worse than Abrams but it’ll have reverse gearbox, plus modeling them 80 tons will probably do wonders.

Might be a language issue but i’ve stated the balancing policy. Why armor can’t be buffed even. The term “buffed” indeed doesn’t specify the amount but best in the game was not my initial intention, i was thinking closer to German standards but definitely not better. But from the way the question is worded you do imply that Russia has indeed the best armor in game and it’s not realistic.

It was more of IRL thing, currently in game even though electronics are modeled they just be doing fire control system but there’s things like Iron Vision on Merkava’s which i don’t know how’d be modeled if ever.

You don’t need to spend anything, makes it cheaper. The advantage i mentioned is cash.

I feel like official K/D ratios and player base statistics are compromised, maybe it’s the region i’m not feeling it, but considering that i’m not the only one complaining the problem is at large. T’s(and BMPT) are tough, they’re annoying and not fun to play against. Also that doesn’t explain their CAS bias with them HARM being twice as fast and KH/Lmur/IRCS blah blah blah.

Again, my problem is special treatment, not that it’s them Russians. If it was anyone other i would’ve said the same. Russia is artificially brought up but everything else is brought down, Chinese be complaining about their MBT being so low and they get Taiwanese Abrams, well at least it’s not Leo.

I played a few matches after TR was added to Merkava, i went nah, and quit for a month. It was already a repair sim, now it’s just plainly unfun.

I’m saying it’s not a 12.3 go compare other 12.3s

I literally work with tankers lmao but also it’s just something you can find online from things like bundeswehr interviews live fire events that sort. Ofc if your asking for a official manual that doesn’t exist.

Nah dude y’all need to stop with the massive dishonesty here.

You guys make all sorts of quips about how hard it is to do a t series when you are the same players smashing your w key right into a lower front plate shot. But that front angle more than half the time means your auto loader eats it and you return fire and either cripple or kill. Cripple for western means waiting to find out who repairs faster or when the next t series rushes on the w key high to finish you off.

You guys are out rageous in this and it’s a joke. Yeah who gives a rip if y’all get a one tap half the time? The other half is you returning fire for a free assist or kill while western mbts get the same survival odds but CANT return fire.

So you need to quit acting like an intellectual authority when you and every other t series fan won’t own your basket is a MASSIVE advantage.

Also again, get back on topic. Go make a thread about since you can’t stay on topic.

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Oh also the darn ERA. Gaijin went “Hey look those anti ERA dart you’ve been asking for!” and proceeded to buff Relikt, awl for soap. For one, only US gets those while M338/others still lack such capability despite being written in open source manual. And two, it only works on Kontakt-5, which, at the BR that the Abrams sits, doesn’t matter at all. Also the Turret ring suspiciously didn’t had enough time to be modeled on Russian tank. For Merkava, which is now not just repair sim but full on experience not even mentioning lack of changes for over 3 years, they had time but not for their favorite son.

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And here we have the two most cliche answers in a single post:

‘‘Trust me bro, I know someone that…’’ and ‘‘Just google it bro’’

I think you’ll understand that I’m gonna go ahead and go with what the actual Leopard 2A6 and Leopard 2A1NL tank manuals state, as well as footage of reloads being conducted during training over what some person on the internet claims (without any evidence to support their side of the story).

I still don’t know what you’re trying to say here.

Please take a bit of time to properly type out what your argument actually is, so that I can respond to it in a meaningful manner.

‘‘Half the time’’ ?
That just sounds like bad aim on your end to me.

Here’s one of my most recent matches in the SEP v3. Got 10 kills in this match, of which 9 were one-hit-kills.
That logically means there was one tank that required 2 shots to kill, coincidentally, there was also one single kill that belonged to a non-Russian tank.
Now you take a guess whether that one tank that required 2 shots was Russian or not.

Spoilers:

I’ve got 4400 kills across 7 different variants of the M1 Abrams, and have played it ever since it’s first release.
You could basically call me a Abrams main.

So this comment is particularly funny.

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Isn’t public knowledge. Can’t be used and you understand the needs of a tank and it’s firepower change alot in 40 years. The reload needs aren’t the same of the early 80s lmao

Literally what I said lmaoooo

I don’t know how you have so much patience to deal with them. I wish we could put all of these “mhm, see green armor” in one room where they could play exactly the same tanks with same armor, mobility and firepower to please their twisted sense of game balance. But now when they play THE GAME they cry that their NATO fantasies didn’t translate within game and they can’t play point and click against russian tanks

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Yet failed to show any footage of.

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhXgAXhINbA

‘‘2.8 seconds’’

???

I’ve seen the relevant pages of both tank manuals and their quoted rds/min figures. They’re both plainly stated in the Tank Manuals.

I once again have no idea what you’re trying to say with ‘‘Isn’t public knowledge’’ or how that even relates to my comment.

Firstly: Are you implying the Leopard 2A6 is 40 years old and a product of the '80s?

Secondly: More ‘‘Trust me bro’’ -type argumentation.

Thirdly: Still not given me a reason why I should take the word of a random stranger on the internet over two primary sources.

Fourthly: Feel free to provide sources that prove the rate of fire has substantially increased.

Fifthly: We have '80s versions of Leopard 2’s in War Thunder, of course the tank manuals for those vehicles is fully applicable.

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2a1 is over 40 years old. So if you want to believe nothing doctrinally has changed then you do you

What as of the 2a6 YOU can’t own. As they are all restricted.

What are classified/export restricted.

Them NATO fantasies of having armor modeled across the board and not just for major nations. To take pride in a tank which is heavily artificially buffed to be comparable to NATO’s is very patriotic. Them stupid пендосы dream just to point and click our impenetrable machines of war. All they want is easy mode, truly twisted sense of balance.
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Cuz u know, only 100 people play this game, all those noobs who just want to play their favorite tanks can go suck it up. We be balancing for the top 2%. The most devious ragebait of the decade.

I never said I owned it, I said I’ve seen the relevant pages.

The Leopard 2A6 tank manual can be viewed in archives in the Netherlands, you’re just not allowed to distribute it’s contents or share photographs of the contents.

Tell me you don’t read people’s replies/arguments without telling me you don’t read people’s replies/arguments:

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This 2A6EX guy looks like a kiddo larper that uses “b-b-but I work with tankers” as an argument when he gets backed up in the corner.

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The Abrams did not get its experimental du hull armor it sorely needs because it wasn’t a production application according to Gaijin (though, apparently, it has been installed on more Abrams in the 1990s than APS has been installed on T-90Ms as of this year)

I can actually somewhat back up what they are saying, as I’ve spoken to them outside the forums on discord and they are knowledgeable past that of what a room temp iq child could figure out, can’t say much for the job credentials but it’s not entirely unlikely.

T-72B3A has straight up seen combat in you know where, and the T-90M Arena has been seen with markings running around the same place, if straight up peer combat is not something that counts for a tank to be in game then i don’t know what does.

We also got the patents showing the layout in 2023.