Yeah but in real life the shell doesnt ricochet and such high angles it shatters. And wont do anything to the mantlet or turret ring.
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It’s not like gaijin doesn’t have a mechanic for shells shattering too, they just willingly choose not to use it
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Yeah you are right
Evil mobility = SEP mobility.
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This photo made me laugh out loud
Now compare speed retention in manoeuvres
This image has been proven to be a joke multiple times.
Abrams is extremely similar to BVM in this category.
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I think reverse speed also applies tho. Its pretty important and the russian t series dont have it
My view may be skewed by the only spaded abrams I’ve used being the v3 on dev I suppose, but the BVM feels like it holds speed in turns unnaturally well compared to just about everything else I’ve used short of wheeled vehicles.
What a joke of a sentence.
This has to be the most cherry picked article I have ever read. This ENTIRE argument is under the assumption that the hull has used the same armor inserts/composition since the 80s. I don’t know how hard it is to understand that density to mass ratio are not universal for every element. It’s the same concept as “what weighs more a pound of feathers or a pound of steel.” There’s PLENTY of documents out there regarding potential armor composition upgrades, but the burden of proof for western nations is so incredibly high that no argument nor documents will ever be good enough. Steven Zaloga (if you don’t know who he is, he’s one of the foremost tank experts on the planet) has published multiple CREDIBLE books about potential armor and protection values in the M1A1 and the M1A2. Why can we speculate when to comes to things like the kh38 and Relikt but not western armor. I’m so sick and tired of the favoritism
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Definitely. Its about 1.5s slower to 60 than SEP.
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All in all I gotta say im satisfied with what gaijin did with this controversy, it seems they really put a lot of work and research into this decision. I think people forget to realize that yes armor was increased but gaijin literally has nothing to base it on. Everything is classified and to just make up armor would be incredibly difficult and unrealistic. Red Effect on youtube came to the same conclusion 2 yrs ago when the abrams controversy happened before.
Here is the most updated version. Differences in time are due to the XX.YY in old sheet being frames out of 30, which is an oversight on my part. Frames have been converted to % of a second in this one.
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Thanks, will save.
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I mean it certainly affects the realism part of the game negatively. Not only in the sense that russian tanks are not realistically modeled but more so in situations like the one in this thread. Instead of accepting that some equipment wont be competitive and thinking about different methods of balancing Gaijin would rather kneecap everyone elses vehicles so stuff like the BVM and T90 can be at the same BR as a SEPV3 and a 2A7V.
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Current BVM and T-90M are almost a whole BR worse than SEPv3 and 2A7V…
But Gaijin needs all nations to have 12.7 tanks, which was ironically the fault of the British playerbase.
Yeah exactly and if Gaijin took realism more serious it the gap would be even further.
Considering that british top tier also massively suffers from selective realism and bs additions i kinda doubt that.
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