please do such a blog regarding bmpt’s blow out panel
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Iirc at one point top tier was moved up and CR2s were left behind at a lower BR. They complained they had no top tier tanks; so the monkey’s paw curled and the CR2s were sent higher, along with other tanks. And its been like that ever since, current CR2s are basically 12.0 tanks.
Funnily enough, CR2 is actually overperforming in hull armor.
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T-90M is 51 tonn heavy first T-80 is 42 tonn that is 9 tonn difference.
T-90M has 500~ mm protection against KE without ERA.
The sad truth is nobody knows. Least of all Gaijin. They do the best they can with what they got. It’s unfortunate that this stuff is all classified, but it is going to remain classified for along time. I just either avoid top tier or just accept the vehicles in game are what they are and try and ignore how fake everything is.
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So, if we calculate armor in kilograms, the T-80BVM should weigh 70 tons?
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No.
Why not?
All arguments about BR should use statistics based on in game performance.
StatShark - The Best War Thunder Statistics Site
is an excellent site and statistically sound.
The bottom line is Gaijin doesn’t care how good a vehicle is. They care about how it performs in game. And scrub players lower the curve.
That text is referring to the top of the fuel bulkhead only on IPM1 and M1A1 which was reduced from the M1’s 1,5" top bulkhead, which was added back when M1’s were turned into M1A2 SEPs
The rear bulk head is max 0.25" so Gaijin is being really generous with 0.75" thats atleast a 300% boost from reality:
Different sizes, Different way of protection.
So an update on the whole “classified information” thing, Gaijin used that exact source two-and-a-half years ago on their previous post about the Abram’s armor.
You can’t make this up lmao.
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SEP V3 also has improved side turret array that includes DU that increases the CE protection 200% up to 800mm of protection. Maybe that’s why the turret is a lot fatter is because it also incorporates DU side armor. This improvement was also on the SEP V2 and M1A1 SA.
Great, not what most people wanted but its a start.
Now what about the mountains of accepted bug reports for all other nations? Like spall liners missing on chinese mbts for example.
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The T-80BVM weighs 45.7 kg. Therefore, the BVM’s armor should have increased by only 5%. That’s all.
Well i mean thats not really a big problem anymore considering we have subtrees now. Also 12.0 might be underselling a bit, theyre not great but with the right fixes they can compete.
It is weak compared to other top tier rounds it flies the slowest and penetrates the lowest or joint lowest.
While it can get the job done it is nothing special at the highest BRs
Less than average Vietnamese ?
47 tonns.
Different ERA, quite angled armor plate and different size compared to Abrams.
I understand your concern for other issues, but speak about them in appropriate posts, we don’t need any more discussion of other tanks under posts not for them
I doubt fully fixed Challengers could compete with fully fixed Leopards and M1s.
Same goes for Arietes and probably some others as well.
They know, bud. They just posted a classified document on the original edition of the devblog and they now play dumb around it.
Even OP joked with a GIF. Only they know how gimped they’ve made several MBTs for years.
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