Regarding the Hull Armor of the M1A2 SEP V3

[GxneralEagle-live]

TM 9-2350-255-20, CHAPTER 7, SECTION II - SUSPENSION MAINTENANCE:

The vehicle hull ground clearance must be checked during scheduled intermediate inspections or whenever front-end overload conditions are suspected. Standard clearance is 19.0 inches (48.2 cm)

Torsion bars exhibiting permanent set (settling) that results in a hull ground clearance measurement of less than 17.5 inches (44.4 cm) at the front station armor plane shall be classified as unserviceable. Continuous localized overloading accelerates static material fatigue, necessitating immediate removal and replacement of the affected torsion bar assemblies.

[Flacklichef]

Between the M1A1 and the M1A2 SEP V2 are almost 10 tons of weight difference in Game but they have the same Armor, where did this Weight go if not the Armor? why are you only talking about much less?

[Metaltank1990]

Okay? So torsion bars have to be maintained. We all knew this one.

[ZVO_Vityaz_V]

Tank weight is not only armor…

[GxneralEagle-live]

trying to deflect that I’m right just quit

[Metaltank1990]

@Conte_Baracca

It mounts to the front tow points and rests a panel against the LFP. It is in every way worse than that an added armor would be for weight distribution. The time spent on the ground is insignificant in operational deployment.

The TWMP and the Dozer Blade are legitimate examples of long-term increased strain on the front suspension commensurate with added armor. The logistical argument made by Gaijin is grossly overstated. However, the argument that “special armor” doesn’t exist on any operational Abrams outside of the five used for training is a legitimate argument.

Refer to the above.

[NoodleCup31]

fyi it was in this post but let’s not go off topic.

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[Tech-Tree-F-14D]

I’m not here to argue. Honestly most vehicles need an overhaul. Including Soviet ones, Soviet ones however get the quickest bug fixes.

My poor Merkava is just one of many.

[CofCof]

Get that Russian bias out of your head the problem is the whole game, but even more than the vehicles, it’s the game modes.

[Tech-Tree-F-14D]

So you don’t think the Soviet tree has the quickest bug-fix turnaround?

[CofCof]

No

[Tech-Tree-F-14D]

I’m not saying they are always better. I’m saying they get preferential treatment that impacts the game negatively.

[Tech-Tree-F-14D]

You would be mistaken.

[CofCof]

@Tech-Tree-F-14D

I’m saying they get preferential treatment that impacts the game negatively.

no

[Metaltank1990]

I feel people too often conflate preferential treatment with being ALWAYS superior. These are two fundamentally different things.

[quartas121]

What do you think the real weight change was for just the hull armor? I noticed they glossed over the APU being lighter and the copper wiring replacement

[Tech-Tree-F-14D]

You are entitled to your opinion. I have nothing to prove to you.

[Tech-Tree-F-14D]

Exactly.

[Boramae_KF21]

Equating armor performance solely to total weight is outdated. Modern upgrades are all about optimizing the material density and internal layout. Dismissing performance gains just because there’s no ‘visible’ change in design completely ignores how modern composite armor actually evolves.

[_Renzo]

The M1A1 and M1A2 SEPv2 don’t have the same armor in game lol. It’s poorly shown in the xray viewer, but it becomes pretty clear in the protection analysis.