so why then i am on first place in that match with big gap if all so simple now, and bottom players done 10X less impact ?
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What for if leading done for you?
In the left corner on your doll you can see where are they. You just want the crosshair don’t you.
That’s not true.
it’s just a mantra you keep convincing yourself, instead of learning to play by new rules.
What does your position on the board have to do with ANYTHING in this conversation?
spoiler: It doesn’t.
Where you are on the leaderboard means nothing. I’d get there all the time shooting bots and taking points.
See, this is what I’m talking about. That’s not an indicator of ANYTHING, Kweedko. Except that you’re playing matches. SOMEONE has to be on top. And it would make sense that it’s the one person loving this new system. But it doesn’t answer ANY of the issues or concerns. It’s just, “Hey. Look at me! I’m number 1”.
I’m happy for you.
But we’re talking about the issues with Naval Arcade. Which are copious.
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If you watch replay you actually see a skillplay and hard worked win in the end of the match not just “bot killing”. You stating “no skill” without any proofs and reject proofs of skill in new mechanic how convincing.
There is issues and those are bugs. Do you report bugs, or demand them to been fixed - no, you just argue with me for a month.
The burden of proof is not mine. I can easily say, “What demonstration of skill is there if you’re popping players who struggle with a terrible aim system that makes no sense?”
I’d like to address this.
You’re suggesting that it is unimportant that the gameplay is weaker now (to non-existent) because there’s plenty of other mechanics in Naval to apply skill to. “Who cares about gunplay sucking. There’s SO MUCH MORE to Naval than gunplay”. What is that? Please, explain to me what else there is to do?
I’m playing right now. It sucks. Even in low tiers, Destroyers at distance just pop costals. The really exciting coastal/bluewater game play doesn’t exist anymore. Unless you’re in something tiney, like a G5, 123k, V990… with an impossibly tiny hitbox… you don’t stand a chance.
Before, I could dance with the PT boats. Not anymore.
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maybe simply due to fully grinded ships and crew?
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So you state that is no skill in first place so burden on you. You just can’t proof it.
I could stand a chance, and i could “dance” maybe you have skill issue and don’t want to learn?
btw. you basically confess that now other players outplay you easily and that’s why you so pissed off.
I’m a veteran player with thousands of hours in Arcade Naval. ;) I have no lack of confidence in my skill, and my numbers prove it.
The core argument here is that the current aim mechanic strips the skill needed.
Was this not the INTENT, Kweedko? To make gameplay more accessable? We can’t have it both ways. We can’t have an AI Aimbot system that puts rounds onto a target FOR the player to increase attractiveness for new players AND state that it is a MORE skill dense system, which then allows you to make a personal attack.
IDGAF about attacks on my “skillz”. The numbers prove it. I’m talking about GAME. MECHANICS.
So, let’s talk about the match I just finished.
I was trying to shoot a Chikugo in my Bernau. It was 3.36km away. I aimed directly at it and pulled the trigger…
no rounds were flying out. …i got OUT of zoomed mode and I see my rounds are splashing in the water directly in front of me. A couple of meters off my hull. …I’m like, “wtf”.
You know why? There was a little strip of land between me and that boat.
In the PREVIOUS aim system, my rounds would just FLY OVER the land. The rounds would have hit that Chikugo even if they flew perfectly flat. But since AI drives ALL of the shots… it just shot the water in front of me.
I couldn’t redirect. I couldn’t take control. There is literally NO ability to have the agency to make that REALLY EASY SHOT. …because I’m NOT aiming. I’m not playing. The AI is making the shots. Literally.
…
Where’s the skill there?
“But its a bug!”
Ok my dood. Uh… I don’t know what to say. The entire mechanic change is a bug to me. Everything is a bug.
My point is: The Current Aim System is OBJECTIVELY WORSE than what we had. If we had one bug before, we have 10 now.
Why we’re all here is because the current aim system is EXTREMELY broken. TO the point ppl can’t play. And that’s what ppl keep saying.
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For me you one trick pony who can’t adapt atm.
proof it, take some ship setup that was useless before the patch and proof it
It’s a bug, do you angry at a bug, go tell that in patchnotes threads not here.
people play no mater of bugs, you don’t, you arguing on a forum
Chill out, guys, you should take this to DMs. Nobody wants to scroll through personal arguments that barely contribute to the topic.
I want to say something about the NAB’s targeting system, but seeing this has killed the vibe.
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We are chilling, just bumping the tread sometimes.
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Here’s a stat for you.
A lot more people like my posts on the topic than yours.
Here’s another stat for you.
So… [shrugs] IDK my man. The people don’t seem to like what you’re laying down.
Which is why we need the devs to radically shift away f rom the mobile gaming model of Arcade Naval and restore skilled gameplay.
I’d love to see how many Naval Arcade whales they’ve lost. Me for sure. In a way, I’m grateful. I’m going to save a lot of money I used to spend on WT this year.
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Say it. I think it’s in some people’s interests to confuse the topic with personal attacks so that what you just expressed happens. You don’t want to engage. Ignore those and post your thoughts.
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I just want to ask Kweedko a simple question.
Do you want to play the game, or do you want to be played by the game?
Because to me, a veteran naval player, the new aiming system took away our right to play the game from the moment it debuted. The AI took away the control of the gun, decided where to aim, and where to shoot. We players now only have control over choosing the target and which part of the target we want to destroy, and that is not playing.
I saw many players switch the control to AA gun and leave their main gun and 2nd gun to AI control. They chose a target, and then the AI shot the hell out of the target. That is not fun at all.
If a gamemode does not give the player fun and enjoyment, that gamemode is not worth playing anymore.
I dropped my WoWS account with 8+ tier X ships and 5+ premium ships to play Naval in War Thunder years ago, grinding nearly the full techtree of ships in Germany, US, Japan, and Gaijin give me this in return?
NAB in War Thunder is fun, back then in the previous major update. I was very excited waiting for Iowa, Bismarck, Vanguard, and Yamato. Now? I’m considering re-downloading WoWS because at least they still give me the power to control my ship fully, not with the help of a stupid AI, HAIYA!!!
#mymaingunmychoice
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across all mode in War Thunder Arcade aiming has always been “regular aim with a lot of assistance” and not "point anywhere and we will compensate the lead and trajectory yourself. Boot yourself out of “suggestion” section of the forum man, you’re too stupid for your own good. do you shove fork into electrical outlet when you were kid or something?
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That dumbass doesn’t play naval, his plane stats are purely CAS only. I think it’s safe to completely flag everything he said in suggestion section. he’s radically dumb.
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So you chose to show your forum performance instead of ingame performance, sure it proofs that there is no skillplay now.
sometimes you lose a whale, sometimes you catch a new one
Are you even tried to learn how to aim with new system?
If all who vote for “bring all back” play with the same performance now, i think that argument that new aiming is so simple and easy and requires no skill is irrelevant. And looks like my argument about peps who don’t want to learn was more than right.
And yes, someone doesn’t realize or choose to be blind. I quit all of those battles because the stupid AI refused to detect the target. That is the “bug” that they claim to have fixed, but not fixed at all. What is the point of playing a game when you happen to meet a bug that you can’t do anything to fix?
Besides, if you want to claim that I’m just an unskilled player, then do not forget to bring all the matches I’ve played
P/S: I’m gonna ignore you from now on. Just like there is no point playing a match with a bug that doesn’t get fixed, there is no point talking to someone who refuses to see the truth. Bye bye
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Sure, especially those where you died 3 times.